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hi,
i downloaded your stuff and built it using vsts8, no error was there and it was a successful built. well.. i did not expect it to be such a wonderful conversion, i am currently reading shauns book he published from wrox i.e. pro dotnetnuke and dotnetnuke modules building. even if i know the use of vb.net it really hurts me reading that language in pdf. What a mess. beside the fact that it looked easier, five years before, to me as well as many people i really think that ppl should move to c# now and be mature.
and i was thinking that if shaun walker ever considered about doing it in C# and he actually would have Done this, today dnn's community would be as ten times than the current community.(and maybe more than ten times) this is the Biggest Gamble he played, and he definitely was Beaten in this bet. Such a wonderful open source and such a misery happened to it.
and about your conversion, i would really really love to take it on the production iff you carried it on until 5.x ...... but you seemed to leave on 4.3 obviously you stopped converting more versions?
you can start over it again, you are doing such a nice job, even i do not work in dnn usually but when i am learning you code will help me a lot only due to the fact you are doing in c#.
thumbs up and never let it down, please stand for 5.x if you cannot do 4 anymore. i will appreciate and i think if you continue working on it all ppl working in C# will download your code rather than core websites packages, this is i can bet. And if you successfully continue on it you can get a separate website for its advertisement and ppl would love to even purchase a successful built i.e for $100 which is my least guess. only iff you manage to provide support.
thanks
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Asif Ashraf
Technical Lead, Store Secured Inc.
MCPD(Web) , MCAD(.NET) , MCTS (ASP.NET)
MCP (C# , SQL Server , ASP.NET , Services)
IM : asiflogs@yahoo.com
Email : roger@storesecured.com
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although dotnetnuke 5.0.1 CE is out there, and i loved if the author continued to convert till now. I think the last tag in svn was for 4.3. beside the fact he did not carry this on, as it seems like. But I will say Great Work....... Nice Job.
Thanks
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ASif Ashraf
MCAD.Net,MCP
Asif.Log@gmail | hotmail.com
92-306-4526526
Sr. dotNet & Flash Developer
Blu Media Works LHR PK
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From where i can download the so converted file as a zip or rar format.
In google code it is like individual files.
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Ajith R Nair
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Where can i download the source code from???
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The article does not mention which version of DNN it translated.
Today DNN is 4.8.1.
If the C# is not being updated with the production version, I don't see any use for this personally.
The C# might introduce new bugs and you never know if support will be provided in a consistent manner.
The claim that the C# version is much faster is dubious. Both versions should translate almost to the same IL unless C# is doing it differently. I am sure the DNN guys would be interested in this claim. If this is true, I as a user would want a C# just for the performance benefit specially if I host several portals in the same DNN instance.
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i don't know why ppl behaved so strange on sucha nice job. well buddy.. go to source code and it must be under TAGS node.
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ASif Ashraf
MCAD.Net,MCP
Asif.Log@gmail | hotmail.com
92-306-4526526
Sr. dotNet & Flash Developer
Blu Media Works LHR PK
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Honestly, one of the facts that kept me from using dotnetnuke is it's written in VB. Now it's my time to use it.
Thanks for your effort.
Alex
Alexander German
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how i create crystal report in desktop application
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Congratulations on your conversion, this is a great effort. Not from a performance or implementation standpoint, but from merely an academic one.
The problem I see with a conversion (not yours in particular) is that the automated tools for doing so are iffy at best, and unless you can get a 90-95% automated conversion process (and a repeatable one as well), then you're always playing catch up with the VB release and ALWAYS behind the VB release.
A good example of this is your very own project itself, which judging from the notes up on Google, you're about 6-7 months behind the current version.
There is nothing wrong with VB enterprise development folks, for the naysayers, you've obviously just never worked on large enterprise projects that involved VB.
I've had the pleasure of working on very large scale client/server applications and web based applications in both languages, and from my very long and storied experience, there is absolutely no advantage in using one over the other.
The time of VB vs. C++ development arguments has been over for a long time. .NET leveled the playing field between it's CLR compliant languages 8 years ago.
You use what you're comfortable with, plain and simple. The VS IDE has become a text editor, and you choose the language you want it to work with.
The whole VB vs C# argument is no better than a bunch of drunk guys arguing over the Red Sox vs. the Yankees at the local pub.
Edward DeGagne
South Village Software
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Hi !
It's great work.I'm fond of it.If possible please tell me how to get it.
Thanks.
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You need to understand source control to view it. In this case, we're using subversion, which is the successor to cvs. Take a look at subversion.tigris.org for available clients. On windows i suggest TortoiseSVN. Once you install a subversion client you can download the source code from code.google.com. Thanks for your interest in the project. I appreciate it.
C-ya
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First things first...nice job!!! I love DotNetNuke and you made me love it even more! I tried downloading the source code from code.google.com but it seems that i need a username and password. I would like to help you with your project. I don't have much experience with asp.net but i have a few years experience with C#. Hope to hear from you soon!
Cheers!
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Hey there matey,
thanks for the information.. I have downloaded tortoiseSVN and installed it. however, I get prompted for a username and password to access the folder?
help please?
cheers
shekhar
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I've planned do the same...
At this moment, my plan is integrate DotNetNuke with NHibernate and Castle Container...
Yeahhh, Has a big Impedance!!!
When i achieved this... perhaps i'll post some article at SourceCode...
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Agreed, great work!
I'm also interested in integrating Castle and NHibernate into DotNetnuke.
Have you already started this task?
Antonio
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After reading a number of these comments I get the impression there are some who feel threatened by a C# version of DNN. Such hostility!
It's just code, people. It's just code..
-Jake
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I am curious why the license was changed from BSD to MPL?
Cheers,
Dave
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I appreciated what you have done! waiting for your next article.
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You have achieved absoultely nothing but I will give you 9/10 if you decide that is was really just something to do because you were bored.
C# programmers can write their own modules for DNN anytime.
Nobody cares what language the core is written in , only about 1% of modules need to care.
The audience is people who use DNN and unless your conversion has somehow discovered a great new way to present a web site then the world will still be the same tomorrow.
Pity your obvious talents couldn't be employed on something the DNN community actually need although right now, I can't think of anything.
The only thing a C# version adds is maintenance costs, inconsistency, user confusion, division. Hey it sounds like C# itself but then the world has always needed two ways of doing the same thing.
Rob
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Shaun Walker himself said he would like a C# version; and admitted that the reason he picked VB was so the the newbies would flock to it and help it grow; he made the right choice by the way; but still would like to see a C# version for the die hards like us or should I say some of us; since I don't speak for everyone; the problem is keeping them in sync; which if you did a little research instead of waisting our time reading a rant; you'd know that is what this project is all about. Any good programmer cares what the core is written in; that's why I use Rainbow instead of DNN; VB sucks; it's for the newbies; C# is for real programmers. This project is great and I take my hat off to the people involved; this is opening the community up to a huge group of people like myself that will not, nor should not take it serious enough to use for a production web site. If you are one of the people who actually buy into the fact that C# and VB compile into the same output then you need to learn more about C# and optimization. I have been a computer programmer since 1976; seen a lot of languages; liked some hated others; C is still my favorite; C++ add some needed features Borland rocked but MFC sucked; MS finally got it right with C#. I made this comment to educate you not start a war so please take it that way; we have to learn by asking a question and not stating an opinion based on limited knowledge; I think that if you really get into the sprite of translating VB into C# you would have a better understanding of the work these guys are doing; and by the way how much money did it cost you? Your last points about adding maintenance cost don't really fly; you see your not working on the core your just deploying it for the most part; inconsistency isn't going to be an issue since they are following the main core; user confusion? you have a VB version or a C# version; if that confuses you then you need to find a new hobby; division? yes; I'll agree; I'm one that will only use the C# version and say that the VB version is slow at best; but the plan is to keep both version the same so we don't branch off; so division doesn't fly ether. There are two kinds of people those that think there are two kinds of people and those that know the truth; C# rules and VB drools; the right way or the lazy way. Line for line there are still more C code out there then VB for good reason; I couldn't imagine Windows being written in VB so why would I want my web site written with it.
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Jeffrey Scott Flesher wrote: VB sucks; it's for the newbies; C# is for real programmers
Oh boy, here we go again...! Sorry, can't let this pass...
It doesn't matter whether it's woodword or website-coding - life is easier if you use the right tool for the right job. Even a master craftsman uses a hammer and nail sometimes; if you're putting up fenceposts in your back garden you do not need to turn them on a lathe adn polish them first.
VB is a perfect tool for smaller (and not just the very small) projects that require quick turnaround. Don't knock it; it can do a perfectly good job. It's even done, unless I've misundertood, a decent job of DNN...
Put another way: if VB is for newbies only, then C# is for coding snobs.
I like VB. It's friendly
Fred
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Your right; sorry about the comment; it was just my opinion; I've been a computer programmer for 31 years now; and when I started basic was just that; for newbies; so get over it; it wasn't meant as a put down; C# is for real programmers; well; OK; I went overboard; VB programmers are just as real as C# ones. I like C; I've written in so many languages over the years; most of them not by my choice; VB is one of them; don't get me wrong I like it; my comment wasn't to start a VB vs C# war; believe me the last thing I wanted was another war; my comment was in defense of the comment about what a waste of time; it's my opinion that if DNN was written in optimized C# that it would run faster; but the fact is that until we do its just my opinion; I love DNN and the people that take their time to write it; and yes in VB; I did agree with that choice of tools if you re-read my first post; I use it for my site (vetshelpcenter.com) but it's slow; even on my dual Zeon with SCSI drives or my AMD duel core running x64 with SATA drives; I'm thinking about porting it to Linux to see if I can get it to run faster; I just wish I could do that with a C# version; that's it; I think it should have a VB and C# version so we don't have a devision of camps; in fact I spent a year working on a conversion program; but never got it 100% on DNN and until I can it's a waist of time; but it's my time to waist and not a waist of everyone else's time. I like Code Project and the people who come here; you included; so please do me a favor and learn a little about C#; write a few programs; get use to having to actually put some thought into what type of variable you should use; you'll find that there are a lot of commands you take for granted in VB that are not there in C#; so you have to write your own and learn from it; there isn't a perfect language in the world both in speaking and in programming; English has so many meanings for each word it's impossible to write a program to decipher it; well the difference in VB and C# isn't that much difference; translation is something I wish I could do; it's not a waist of time it's a goal. Programming rules no matter what language you use; I forget that sometimes; thanks for reminding me.
Jeff
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Maybe next time you should consider writing in a format that is readable.
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