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Thanks, I see the dot now.
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Some typefaces are OK at the sizes you present, but are unreadble at the 8-point I use.
Following the CP poll about fonts, I switched to Andale Mono.
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Agreed!!
If the size is not proper then the fonts look distorted and we got feeling that something is not fine.
Even when sometime vardana fonts looks fine with size 9 but looks clumsy when the size increases.
Believe Yourself™
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When programs need to display lots of data in a very small space, tiny fonts (e.g. in the range of 4x6 to 6x10) can be extremely useful. Unfortunately, .net does not allow the use of bitmap fonts in its controls, and all the TrueType fonts I've seen become illegible at such sizes.
Other than having a program manually draw characters as bitmap graphics, is there any good way to show data legibly at such sizes? For example, do there exist any TrueType fonts that scale well to such sizes, or is there any utility which can take a collection of bitmaps and produce a TrueType font which, when rendered at a particular size, will yield those bitmaps precisely?
Note that for legibility at 4x6, it's necessary that some font characters be rendered quite differently from how they would normally appear at larger sizes. An "N", for example, should appear as a taller version of "n".
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I suggest that you try ProFontWindows or one of the Proggy fonts.
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I'll give those a try. ProFontWindows brings back some memories, since I looked at ProFont in my Macintosh days and ended up creating something that was similar but a bit different. Most notably, the font I created made most of the lowercase letters four pixels wide instead of five and used a narrow zero instead of a slashed one. I actually replaced Monaco-9 with my own adaptation, so it would be the default monospaced system font.
Proggy-Tiny looks like it will be pretty good for use in a 6x9 character box. ProFont is unfortunately only a bitmap font, and thus is not usable in .net controls. Maybe I'll just have to kludge together some bitmap routines for use with a 4x6 character matrix.
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Akkurat looks pretty appealing, but $US150
I also tried some "programmer's" fonts but they are more stylish than readable, and for my taste Courier New lacks the vertical.
The CodeProject font top-list ranking is well-deserved, Consolas is really the best ClearType font (my thumbs-up) and Lucida Console is the best CRT display font.
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T800G wrote: Consolas is really the best
At what size? I can't read it at 8-point.
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Thankyou!
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Thanks, Proggy Clean is already in the list.
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I see. You even got the link to Proggy fonts in your article. Maybe I should read the articles first before replying..
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You said that Conoslas is no. 3 and Lucida Console is no. 2 on the CodeProject list of best programming fonts, when in fact Conosolas is the second and Lucida Console is the third.
Also there is a problem with formatting or it's something wrong with CodeProject itself but I have horizontal scrollbar.
Great article!
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Mladen Jankovic wrote: in fact Conosolas is the second and Lucida Console is the third.
You're correct, thanks. [update: should be good now]
What's your browser window size and how much do you have to scroll?
modified on Friday, October 10, 2008 7:28 PM
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Hans Dietrich wrote: What's your browser window size and how much do you have to scroll?
IE7@1680x1050, but I don't see anything in your article that can't fit and cause h-scrolling, it's more like a problem for Chris&Co.
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I will fix in next update.
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Well, I tried to fix it, but could not. Chrome also shows a scroll bar, after you resize the browser window.
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I bought it once upon a time as part of the "More Fonts for Windows" package, and I've enjoyed it quite a lot. One interesting feature is that while it's a uniform-stroke-width sans-serif font, it the italic version has letterform changes typical of italic fonts (e.g. the non-italic "a" has a flag on top, but the italic "a" has a full-sized bowl with no flag. The non-italic "l" has a flag on top but nothing the bottom; the italic "l" has a right-facing flag on the bottom (the "1" has flags a flag on top and a bar on the bottom). The "0" is not slashed, but is very distinct from the "O".
Anyone else ever seen that font?
PS--I would second the request for a sample including O0 Ll1| `"' etc. since those characters can be tricky. Also, it would be helpful if in text you don't just refer to whether the zero is slashed, but whether it is distinct.
Addendum: Financial has filenames mlsan.ttf through mlsaq.ttf and was sold by MicroLogic Software, Inc.
modified on Friday, October 10, 2008 2:14 PM
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I will see if I can find Financial.
supercat9 wrote: I would second the request for a sample including O0 Ll1| `"'
I would like to do this in the context of code (preferable xml, which won't start a language war). Can you suggest a code snippet?
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There are online reports that Financial is a forged font. I don't know if this is true or not, but I haven't found it on any legitimate font site.
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| There are online reports that Financial is a forged font. I don't know if this is true or not, but I haven't found it on any legitimate font site.
Well, it was in a collection I bought some time back. I just plugged a sample of the italic into WhatTheFont and it suggested Letter Gothic 12 Pitch Italic. That's probably what it's based on, though none of the font sets I'd seen with a Letter Gothic or imitator included the italics.
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I hate to mention this, but I simply must:
"... It's Its only drawback ..."
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This article presents commonly used programming fonts with examples of each font in ClearType and non-ClearType.
| Type | Article |
| Licence | CPOL |
| First Posted | 9 Oct 2008 |
| Views | 379,417 |
| Bookmarked | 140 times |
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