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Great app!! I'll just hope it won't be too hard to learn all that stuff, but still, makes a great, free app that I've been looking for for a long time now.
PS. Maybe it's time to make it public by opening project for eg. on github and get some general community help, not jut through codeproject?
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Thx Michael.
Michael Cwienczek wrote: PS. Maybe it's time to make it public by opening project for eg. on github and get some general community help, not jut through codeproject?
To be honest, I like the community here, and I have enough on my plate without inviting more. 
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Awesome develope of this software!
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Sorry for my poor english. Please consider adding these 3 new features:
1) Attached files area & preview (something like you can see in Outlook).
This is very good, because, often you have a task linked with more than one file, it’s useful because you can add folders, mails, etc. And... if it were possible ... would be nice if when you click on an attachment, you can see a "preview" of the file (as in "Outlook").
2) List of tasks next due area (or secondary filtered task list)
This is great: it’s a filtered list that only shows the task with the due date. And you can order these tasks by next due, showing how many days are left until they expire: 1 day, 3 days, 7, 13, etc.
I know that "To do list" has the option to filter tasks list by the due date. But my suggestion aims to have always in sight the tasks that are coming due (is VERY useful).
Having to "filter" each time to see tasks that are due soon loses usefulness.
I hope you can see the convenience of having (always visible) this kind of "secondary task list" (so that you have: a main "unfiltered" task list and, below, another "filtered").
Obviously, this “secondary list”, can be used according to the interest of each user . You can filter this list with other filtering criteria.
3) Time remaining: show exact number of days
I noticed that the "days remaining" a task with a due date are shown in the following format: "2w3d", "3m1d", etc.
It would be great if I could see exact numbers of days left instead of this. (13 days 47 days, 128 days, etc).
At least for me, this way "2w3d" is not practical or easy.
Armando
modified yesterday.
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Arpas wrote: I noticed that the "days remaining" a task with a due date are shown in the following format: "2w3d", "3m1d", etc.
It would be great if I could see exact numbers of days left instead of this. (13 days 47 days, 128 days, etc).
I can probably fix this easily because there is already a preference to Display 'Estimated/Spent' times in HMS format. So if this is _not_ set I'll display the time remaining in days, hours or minutes depending on what is most appropriate, else I'll leave it as it is.
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Hello
1)
I agree on the "more than one link" it is sometime very handy to avoid putting it in the comment section.
For he previz I find it too much, todolist is not Outlook, soon you would ask to have a Send To feature...
2)
I use the 'list view' with the option of hiding parent tasks then I sort through due date.
The column order is independent from 'Task tree' so you can always see coming tasks.
However the filter is common so if you hide some tasks in one list, they are also hidden there (completed tasks for example)
3)
dealing with working days can also be interesting there: if something is due on monday at work and you are friday, time left is one day, not 3. (Time period is not taken into account there)
Loic
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Thanks Loic for your opinion!
Quote: For he previz I find it too much, todolist is not Outlook, soon you would ask to have a Send To feature...
1) Ok, I understand that this could complicate the software and would require a lot of work. However, there is no denying the usefulness of this would have. Is it asking too much to TDL? maybe for now ... would not rule it for the future. I do not think it's something useful only for Outlook users. It is a very useful tool for those who have many files linked to a task. And I do not use Outlook for work. The "send to .." feature is a good idea  haha
Quote: I use the 'list view' with the option...
2) I know, but it's not exactly what I propose.
I have to have in sight permanently tasks due. A secondary list with a filtering criterion itself is something very useful, I think. At least for me it is.
Quote: However the filter is common...
Exactly, and this would be good if it were not for this "secondary list". This secondary list should have its own filtering criteria.
Quote: dealing with working days can also be interesting there: if something is due on monday at work and you are friday, time left is one day, not 3. (Time period is not taken into account there)
3) YES! you're right! Your suggestion is very useful!
Armando
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Arpas wrote: 2) I know, but it's not exactly what I propose.
I have to have in sight permanently tasks due. A secondary list with a filtering criterion itself is something very useful, I think. At least for me it is.
This would be useful, but Dan has in the past indicated there are challenges with creating different filters for different views.
A work-around I have used in the past is to paste the 'due today' (or so) tasks into a stickie, which can be positioned on screen where convenient, and always be on top. This doesn't of course allow the direct completion of task items in TDL, hence some double handling.
Dan has implemented some integration with an open source stickies application by Zhorn software for showing reminders, so this might be an option.
Another way I have worked, is to copy the larger tasks for today into a diary. This has the added benefit of being able to schedule them through the day. Was also useful approach at the time, as I was at my computer less than I am currently.
zajchapp
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Using 6.6.7 - not able to see Edit > Other Task Attributes > Set Task Colour...
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Have a look at the preferences > fonts and colours.
Is "colour task titles by assigned colours" enabled?
Jochen
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nope.
I have fiddled with all settings under this menu but don't see - Edit > Other Task Attributes > Set Color
Warm Regards,
Manoj
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Can you send me your preferences file (.ini) pls?
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sent... Same subject line.
Warm Regards,
Manoj
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Thx Manoj.
You only see the 'Set Task Color' menu item if you have 'Preferences > User Interface > Fonts and Colours > Colour task titles by assigned colours' enabled.
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.dan.g. wrote: You only see the 'Set Task Color' menu item if you have 'Preferences > User Interface > Fonts and Colours > Colour task titles by assigned colours' enabled.
Sorry, I should have explained it to Manoj as detailed as you did.
Jochen
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I recently had a request for making tasks readonly[^], which would appear to be a fairly simple job (6.8).
And it's prompted in me another related idea: Task Ownership.
I haven't really thought it through yet, but if a task was 'owned' by someone then only they could edit it.
Effectively it would be read-only to everyone but the owner.
Let me know if this would be of interest to you.
ps. This would not be a mechanism to allow you to only check-out specific tasks, it would just be a way of controlling access to tasks.
modified 2 days ago.
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Interesting. Are you thinking this would be driven by the "Allocated to" attribute?
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zajchapp wrote: Are you thinking this would be driven by the "Allocated to" attribute?
Possibly, though we would then need a means of associating a given user with a alloc-to name, which could correspond to the 'Created by' name in the preferences.
My initial thought however was to use the user's Windows ID since that is less easily changed. After all, there's not much point having ownership if people can easily spoof each other's identities.
Note: the read-only flag would have no such control and anyone could change this if they wanted to.
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Hi Dan,
"read-only to everyone but the owner" is a good option to make sure that nobody can mess up your tasks or comments.
Suggestion:
One step further. It would be great if the owner could define one or two persons that are allowed to make changes, e.g. during his absence. Makes sense if we are looking at a shared tasklist and the owner is e.g. on holiday.
Just a thought.
Cheers,
Jochen
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TCP_JM wrote: It would be great if the owner could define one or two persons that are allowed to make changes, e.g. during his absence. Makes sense if we are looking at a shared tasklist and the owner is e.g. on holiday.
Indeed, I fully expect this to get more complicated.
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.dan.g. wrote: I fully expect this to get more complicated.
Jochen
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Pardon if I am being a bit thick but...
Is the 'owner' then initially the 'creator', and will 'owner' be a further attribute (only editable by the owner)? Or how will the task be associated with a person?
So are you also saying that anyone one would be able to go into the tasklist, but any tasks not owned by them would be 'read only'. They could however switch this 'read only' status off? An individual task, or all tasks.
The read only tasks would also need to be visually distinct from editable ones.
Having said all that, I think it would be a useful option for shared tasklists.
zajchapp
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zajchapp wrote: Is the 'owner' then initially the 'creator', and will 'owner' be a further attribute (only editable by the owner)? Or how will the task be associated with a person?
My initial thoughts are:
1. 'Ownership' as a concept must be enabled on a tasklist, and it is off by default.
2. Enabling ownership on a tasklist makes the enabler the overall owner.
3. Only the owner may disable ownership.
4. All tasks are owned by the overall owner and the task's creator.
5. When an owner allocates the task it then also becomes owned by that person.
zajchapp wrote: They could however switch this 'read only' status off? An individual task, or all tasks.
No. This is where 'Read-only' as a concept is distinct from 'Ownership'. Only an owner can change the ownership of a task, but anyone can enable and disable the read-only status, which is really just a simple way to prevent accidental changes.
zajchapp wrote: The read only tasks would also need to be visually distinct from editable ones.
Agreed.
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Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like a plan.
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IMHO I would prefer a really simple solution: The "Owner" should be an entry like "Alloc to" and "Alloc by" - that's all. It is usual that a task has "a client" (Alloc by), a contractor (Alloc to) and "a boss, a responsible person" (the owner).
All the complex things like "creator / owner / security / Windows login" make it complicated and be prone to errors and problems.
Windows login: I work on different PCs with different logins, so this would be a problem. Other way - sometimes logins are changing, people leave the company - I saw a lot of problems with all that security and access-right stuff ....
I think that "owner / creator / access" administration should be a job of the Operating System or the Document management system or something else.
Pierre
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Get it Here.
New Features
- Task references/aliases (Ctrl+Shift+Drag, or Right-Click Drag. Will add support for 'Paste As Ref'.)
- Gantt Chart Plugin
- List support added to custom attribute icon type
- Support added for Google Drive, SkyDrive and DropBox (if these are installed)
- Start and Due dates now have their own droplists on the filter bar
- Support added to use Stickies for reminders.
- Support added to cut/paste between separate instances of TDL
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Hi dan
thanks for the new release.
First issue: In Gantt View the column "Alloc to" can not be switched of.
Pierre
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Pierre de la Verre wrote: In Gantt View the column "Alloc to" can not be switched of.
Do you mean 'hidden'?
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.dan.g. wrote: Do you mean 'hidden'?
Yes.
Pierre
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DT996 wrote: Thank you so much!!!
You're welcome.
What to call these 'things' however has been tricky because they are an abstract concept with no obvious connection to the physical world until you get down to a quantum level.
In a sense they are 'links', except that they don't _link_ to the original, they _are_ the original. Likewise for 'shortcuts'. And 'link' is already taken for files and URIs.
And they're not strictly 'references' either, except in the programming sense, which perhaps comes closest.
And to me, 'clone' implies an exact copy rather than the original itself.
So we're stuck with 'references' for now...
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Reference works.
For what it is worth, I think of these as 'referred tasks', or 'additional task instance'.
The instance isn't exactly the same as the original visually, as it has a shortcut icon on it...
One other thing. Searching on title doesn't bring up the referred tasks. Is this intended?
zajchapp
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zajchapp wrote: Searching on title doesn't bring up the referred tasks. Is this intended?
Via 'Find Tasks' and/or 'Quick Find' and/or 'Filtering'?
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A bit of further testing:
- Filtering. Reference tasks are hidden.
- Quick find sometimes seems to work, but seems variable. Mostly the original, sometimes the reference. I am not sure if you can 'Find Next' from this dropdown.
- Find tasks find the reference as well as the originals (in the Find Tasks dialog). Can't differentiate them in the dialog list however.
- Applying the Find Tasks as a Filter hides the reference tasks.
Possibly not a real issue, but seems a little inconsistent.
zajchapp
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zajchapp wrote: Mostly the original, sometimes the reference. I am not sure if you can 'Find Next' from this dropdown.
Just keep pressing F3 (Edit > Find Next).
zajchapp wrote: Can't differentiate them in the dialog list however.
I will fix this (A2).
zajchapp wrote: Filtering. Reference tasks are hidden.
Applying the Find Tasks as a Filter hides the reference tasks.
I will fix this (A2).
zajchapp wrote: but seems a little inconsistent.
I agree.
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zajchapp wrote: - Filtering. Reference tasks are hidden.
I'm not seeing this. Can you try to distill the problem down to a set of steps on a simple tasklist pls?
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Set up a task list. Set up a task called 'Bob'
Create a reference task from it.
Type 'Bob' into the Title filter
Only the original shows.
Does this on Alpha 1 as well.
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Hello,
the filter is set to "Tasks Due by Today" the task is set to occur every one week on Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu and Fr. After completion a new task will be created.
As from 6.6.3 the new task is not filtered and is shown additionally within the task tree/list.
With 6.6.2 the task for today disappears after completion / is filtered correctly.
Can anybody confirm this behaviour?
Thanks!
Best regards,
Dominik
/edit: Issue came up with Version 6.6.3 not 6.6.4
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Hi Dominic
Can you confirm if this is still an issue in 6.6.7?
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Hi .dan.g.
yes, this issue still persists in 6.6.7
If i complete the recurring task due today it will be striked-through and the newly created Task for the following day will be shown additionally.
Best regards,
Dominik
/edit: Issue as from version 6.6.3 not 6.6.4
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Dominik
Can you try out the 6.7.Alpha because it seems to be fixed in that?
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Hi .dan.g. !
Excellent, this issue is fixed in 6.7 Alpha.
Really thank you for your commitment and great work!
I appreciate using it every day! Thumbs up!
Best regards from Munich,
Dominik
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Dan,
I think adding wordwap to custom text columns would open up a lot of new uses for TDL.
I use to use Microsoft Access to develop custom databases, but it is so much easier to create a simple database with TDL.
However, when I add custom text columns to a simple database that I want create with TDL, the text columns can get too wide without wordwrap. This limits considerably what I can do with custom text field types of ToDoLists.
Have you given any thought to adding wordwrap to custom text columns? Would that be difficult to implement? Would you consider this feature for a future release?
Thanks,
Dave Thompson
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DT996 wrote: I use to use Microsoft Access to develop custom databases, but it is so much easier to create a simple database with TDL.
Take care, as this was not how I conceived TDL being used and performance may deteriorate when file sizes get large. Just a heads-up.
DT996 wrote: Have you given any thought to adding wordwrap to custom text columns? Would that be difficult to implement?
Unfortunately there is no way to change the individual height of items in a Windows Tree Control. I would have to write a new Tree Control from scratch.
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