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Hi All,
I'd like to get some performance results across a wide range of computers and Windows versions.
Here's what you need to do:
- Download, unzip and load the test tasklist.
- Close all other tasklists, except the test tasklist, and restart ToDoList.
- 'View > Expand > All Tasks'.
- Make sure the first task is selected.
- Measure how long it takes to scroll to the bottom of the list using only the 'Down' cursor key.
- Do the experiment a few times and send me the results together with the high level specs of your machine and what OS you are using.
Many thanks for your time.
Note: All information received will be treated as confidential.
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Hi Dan,
it's quite a short list. I remember a list with 6000 tasks that we used for testing 
My very old "Internet" Computer with Win XP, SP3, 3.06 GHz, 512 MB RAM. Don't laugh, it has feelings, you know...
It takes an average of 25 secs to scroll from top to bottom (ToDoList 6.5.10)
Cheers,
Jochen
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Win XP Prof. SP3 German, 4 GB RAM (only 3 used in XP), 3.20 GHZ
29 sec.; both stored on local drive and on network drive
The speed of scrolling seem to be the same as scrolling somewhere else.
Pierre
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Hi Dan,
I ran the test on my Gateway DX-4320 (AMD with 4 CPUs and 6GB ram) and it took 32 seconds under Windows 8 with TDL 6.5.10.
I ran the same PC using Remote Desktop Connection from my iMac and it took about 2Min. and 15 sec.
Also, I Ran the test under Parallels on my iMac running Windows 7 with TDL 6.5.10 and it took about 2Min and 17 sec. My iMac is a 2011 model with I5 processor and 8GB ram with 4GB dedicated to Parallels.
Dave Thompson
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OK...
Old laptop - Intel Pentium M 1600Hz, 1.5GB RAM running Win XP SP3
TDL 6.5.5: 25 sec and 1m12sec
TDL 6.5.10: 25 sec and 1m12sec
TDL 6.6d2: 30 sec and 1m11sec
Where the first value is the TDL window at ~a quarter of the screen and the second value is with the TDL window maximised. In both options the CPU gets close to maximum when the arrow down key is pushed down. When the key isn't depressed, the CPU is at about 4%.
For what it worth, the screen is 1680x1050.
[EDIT] Work laptop Lattitude E5420 x86 Family 6 - 2500MHz, 4MB RAM, WinXP SP3, 1366 x 768 screen
TDL 6.1: 23 sec and 36 sec
TDL 6.5.5 26 sec and 36 sec
Again where the first number is when the TDL window is ~ 1/4 of the screen, and the second number when it is maximised. CPU runs at ~30% when scrolling.
zajchapp
modified 17 Nov '12 - 3:20.
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Hi Dan
I followed zajchapp's lead with different window sizes which obviously does make a big difference.
1) W7/64 i7-2600 @ 3.40 GHz 16GB RAM AMD Radeon HD 6800 using TDL 6.5.10 on 1920 x 1200 screen
At half the screen height: 23s; at full size: 37s with CPU topping at 12% for TDL in both cases (no other activity) and that proves this might be more of a graphics card test, right?!
2) Vista/64 Q9300 @ 2.50 GHz 4GB RAM GeForce 9600 GS using TDL 6.1.10 on 1800 x 1440 screen
At half the screen heigth: 36s; at full size: 56s with CPU topping at 25% for TDL.
It becomes 66s if I remove my comment area (where screen repaint would be needed for a longer task title field) whereas the 56s were with a comment area of about 1/3 of the 1800 pixel screen width. Same CPU usage.
Are the hardware specs 'high level' enough? Or do you need more detail?
My question to you: do you want/need response times from virtual machines? Because performance of those can be influenced by even more 'environmental' settings.
Need more, just ask for it
Patrick
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Dan,
I'm using find task filters (with relative date functionality), and it is very great.
But as you know, when you use the find task filter, and 'apply as filter' command, all other filter fields are disabled.
And it is a problem for me, especially because, after I would use the 'Title' filter, in order to reduce the list filtered, but it is not possible.
I could improve my find task filter by adding a title filter, but my filter is too complex, and it is not working.
So for now, I have a big problem in order to filter my tasks...
Would it be possible to enable other filter fields, or at least the title field, which is a very important filter fields ?
Thanks in advance.
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laurentbosc wrote: or at least the title field, which is a very important filter fields ?
I will give it some thought.
The tricky bit is that the 'extra' title filter has to be 'AND-ed' with the Find Tasks filter and this is not trivial. However, if I were to make this a two stage process (internally): First filter by Find Tasks search, and then filter the results by title, this might keep it simple.
laurentbosc wrote: my filter is too complex, and it is not working
Perhaps if you share this with me we can figure out what's not working...
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Actually, I need indeed to do a 2-stage filter:
1- I use the find task filter in order to select my active tasks - OK
2- Based on the filtered result, I want to reduce the result and focus on a specific part of the tree (and its subtree), based on the title of parent tasks.
So for example I want to reduce the filtered tree with just the first parent tasks and its subtree.
This is not possible to do this in a single step, in one find task filter.
And I would want to use the title filter in order to search for the first parent tasks AND show all subtasks.
But I realize there is another easy way (not possible for the moment) : Be able to select manually one or several parent tasks (of the filtered result), and use the "selected tasks" filter ! According to me the 'Selected tasks' filter should be a specific filter, not in the 'Show' combobox, in order to focus on specific tasks or parent tasks (and its subtree), for reporting purposes for example. And same remark coud be done for the filter 'Flagged tasks'...
So by improving the way to use the selected task filter, you would provide a way to do a 2-stage filter, for find task filter, but also for standard 'show' combobox filter.
What do you think about this ?
modified 15 Nov '12 - 9:16.
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is it possible to have multi user names on a file, and each user who open a file should have to enter his user name and own password?
also i should have a column where it should been "automatically" entered which user created this task, and a column which i can see which user last modified this task?
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solmonb wrote: is it possible to have multi user names on a file, and each user who open a file should have to enter his user name and own password?
No.
solmonb wrote: a column where it should been "automatically" entered which user created this task
Select the 'Created By' column.
solmonb wrote: which user last modified this task?
I'll consider adding this as an attribute.
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Hi Dan,
I recently updated after a long time to the current version (BTW: Several cool new features, many thanks for your ongoing development effort!)
When I open tdl://C:\mypath\ToDo.tdl?1751 TDL comes to foreground, but it doesn't open the task list / change the selected task to the passed task (e.g.1751) anymore. Thus, the links generated by flat_sorted_todolist.xsl does not work anymore.
Any idea what happened? Can you reproduce this? (Maybe I missed a new option ...? I checked the option that tdl:// is supported.)
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Can you create a simple tasklist that exhibits this problem and send it to me pls?
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Well, it works now. Maybe I did not reboot after the installation ... Thanks anyway!
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Hello.I am working in machine building industrial.I am using to do list and i think it is great .
Simple and clever .But for my opinion it should be fev more option in this softwear.
1.Internal email client where you can connectet task with the email.
2.More raports.
3.Own column name should be show on the raport
4.I am Polish then i waiting on polish langue.
I am not programist then i can not help.:/
I am waitng for future version .Thank you for such amazing softwear
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Thx for your support.
I will give your suggestions some thought.
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Hi, I'm trying to set reminders for tasks, but even once set, nothing pops-up. Also, do I have to have the application open for the reminders to work?
Fantastic app by the way - I love it! just need to be reminded as to when things are happening =)
Help!?
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Could you add a screenshot or a screen-movie so we can see what you are doing?
Pierre
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FatJobby wrote: Also, do I have to have the application open for the reminders to work?
Absolutely.
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Hi Dan,
About 2 months ago, I sent you a French translation file with a few corrections.
Did you got it ?
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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Yes, I've just been really slack... 
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Version 6.3.9:
Sorting of the column 'category' by numbers seems to work only for numbers up to 5 digits. Now I've entered a 6 digits number (100020) and it is sorted below 87482. All numbers below 100000 are sorted correctly.
I haven't tested other fields. If they follow the same logic, they might be sorted wrong, too.
Martin
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About says: 6.3.9
edit: I just found out (because our numbers have 6 digits now), that 100031 is sorted before 100020 (which is correct), but both numbers are sorted below 87428.
Here's how it looks like (sorted descending):
89491
88256
88092
87482
100031
100020
Martin
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Hi,
Didn't use big numbers in the category field, but I tried this out.
If I sort the category column I get:
87482
88092
88256
89491
100020
100031
And this result is correct.
But I agree that something is wrong if I look at the editing control:
If I click on the little arrow on the right hand of the edtiting field 'category' to choose a category I get:
100020
100031
87482
88092
88256
89491
And this is (obviously) not correct.
I'm using ToDoList Ver 6.5.10
Cheers,
Jochen
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Seem to be
1) Sort by numbers
2) Sort alphabetically
Pierre
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Hopefully you will all see this reply...
The task-tree uses the same 'natural' sorting that Explorer does, so that numbers are sorted correctly.
Comboboxes, however, use whatever in-built sorting algorithm they were originally written with which is probably plain alphanumeric. I'll look into it, but I doubt I can change the combo sorting.
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Hi Dan,
.dan.g. wrote: Comboboxes, however, use whatever in-built sorting algorithm they were originally written with which is probably plain alphanumeric. I'll look into it, but I doubt I can change the combo sorting.
I do not have many categories, so it's relativly easy to keep track of them when the combo box shows the options (different categories) after clicking on the little arrow and to pick the one I want to use. (It would be easier if they would be sorted alphabetically...)
But imagine a user who has to put in let's say a 1000 different product numbers and the listing of those is in disorder... 
You wrote that there is a built in sorting algorithm. That might easily be changed by you, I assume.
The problem is - I assume again - that the categories are strored in the tdl file. So ToDoList would have to read what's already in the tdl file resort the categories put a new one in and store the result then, right?
This brings me to another question:
I've experimented with the custom editing fields (custom columns). These are strored in the the tdl file.
Would it be possible to offer an option that allows to change the order while working in ToDoList?
It's a bit "tricky" to edit the tdl file all the time.
Cheers,
Jochen
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TCP_JM wrote: You wrote that there is a built in sorting algorithm. That might easily be changed by you, I assume.
I also said 'I doubt I can change the combo sorting' 
TCP_JM wrote: Would it be possible to offer an option that allows to change the order while working in ToDoList?
Absolutely.
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.dan.g. wrote: I also said 'I doubt I can change the combo sorting'
I feel a man like you can manage it
.dan.g. wrote: TCP_JM wrote: Would it be possible to offer an option that allows to change the order while working in ToDoList?
Absolutely.
Great, highly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
- - -
Another question:
I created a new custom column "Work Date". What I would need to need is "Work Date (relative)" so that I can use it for "relative" searches in 'find tasks'. I can not create this (obviously).
So the question is:
Would it be possible to offer such a column (or another name) as a standard column like 'Due Date', 'Start Date'?
BTW: That would solve a lot of requests regarding a "Follow-Up-Date", too.
Cheers,
Jochen
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TCP_JM wrote: Would it be possible to offer such a column (or another name) as a standard column like 'Due Date', 'Start Date'?
I would rather fix it so that the Find Tasks dialog can support relative custom date attributes...
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.dan.g. wrote: I would rather fix it so that the Find Tasks dialog can support relative custom date attributes...
Thanks. Does rather mean that you are doing it?
Jochen
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TCP_JM wrote: Does rather mean that you are doing it?
It does indeed.
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.dan.g. wrote: TCP_JM wrote: Does rather mean that you are doing it?
It does indeed.
As always: great. Thank you. I'm very much looking forward to that feature.
Jochen
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In the list it works (6.5.10)
Regarding the combo box (editing field: category):
I'm under the impression that the order depends on the order the user has put the categories in.
The sorting by numbers (or alphabetically) is not correct (neither ascending nor descending).
Jochen
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TCP_JM wrote: I'm under the impression that the order depends on the order the user has put the categories in.
I've just checked 6.6 and it definitely inserts items, including numbers, in alphabetic order.
However it doesn't sort numbers 'as numbers' but as if they were words. ie. '20' comes after '1' and before '8'.
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.dan.g. wrote: I've just checked 6.6 and it definitely inserts items, including numbers, in alphabetic order.
Checked it in different versions of ToDoList. You are right.
Regarding numbers:
I tried to find a little workaround for numbers.
Instead of using 1, 8, 20 I tried
a) _1, _2, _20.
or
b) #1, #8, #20
But even with such a 'prefix' numbers do not get sorted correctly (in the combo box).
I tried a 'space' before a number, but that doesn't work at all.
Cheers,
Jochen
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Only leading zeroes would fix things.
ie. 01, 08, 20
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.dan.g. wrote: Only leading zeroes would fix things.
Doesn't seem to work properly either:
I get:
01
0100023
020
08
In "real life" the numbering is:
1
8
20
100023
Cheers,
Jochen
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Apologies. What I meant is that leading zeroes must be added so that the numbers all have an equal number of digits.
ie.
000001
000008
000020
100023
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It's a good "workaround" and can easily be done if a user needs to work with larg(er) numbers.
Makes it also easier to get an overview since numbers are mostly left aligned.
Jochen
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Are reminders stored in the .tdl - file?
When i move my .tdl file to another pc my reminders are not working!
Thank You
Alexandra
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They are stored in the ini file.
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If you are using the Filter "Show: M) Tasks started by Today" and the start date of an task is reached this task does not appear until you refresh the tasklist somehow.
Thank You
Alexandra
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Alexandra
Would you expect TDL to automatically refresh every x seconds/minutes or so?
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No, as long start times are not working a refresh at the point of datechange at 0:00 once a day would be sufficent.
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This is how I handle due dates, so I'll add a similar check for start dates.
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Great! ![Rose | [Rose]](/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Thank You
Alexandra
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I took few years break from codeproject but I am so happy to see that one of the projects I followed still releases new versions with bug fixes and feature with at most dedication. All the best buddy!
-Sarath.
Rate the answers and close your posts if it's answered
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Many thx. Good to have you back!
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