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.dan.g. wrote: Thinking a bit more, perhaps I don't need a new attribute type at all, just extend the 'single-selection-fixed-list' attribute to support images, and support 'click-cycling'.
This is great news, as this is what I was actually after (if I understand you correctly).
For instance, I am keen to use this for replacing the status attribute - therefore the Task grid would have icons instead of words (more visual, less space used), and you would be able to cycle through the statuses. I assume it wouldn't be possible to add icons to the current built in attributes like status?
Thanks again for considering this - very keen on this functionality.
PS: Would 'shift click' cycle backwards?
zajchapp
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.dan.g. wrote: Thinking a bit more, perhaps I don't need a new attribute type at all, just extend the 'single-selection-fixed-list' attribute to support images, and support 'click-cycling'.
I guess that still means a UI change, and therefore 6.7? --- he asks cheekily.
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I could possibly add the cycling to 6.6 but nothing more.
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Fair enough. Just asking really so I know how to set my plans up for the year.
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Another related issue worth discussing:
Some columns in the task tree respond to double-clicking (task icon, file-link, recurrence, reminders, dependencies) and others to single-clicking with a cursor changes (time-tracking, flag).
There is no obvious logic to this, so I propose to change all such editing (including list-cycling) to be single-click /cursor. This is actually better than double-clicking because the 'hand' cursor indicates that an edit action is possible, and therefore prompts the user to explore the UI.
Your thoughts?
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I would agree with your thinking.
I guess the only concern I have would be that you would need to be more careful where you click on the grid when selecting tasks. Safest would then be to always click on the title, rather than the rest of the grid, to prevent accidentally opening a dialog. At the moment, most of the grid is 'safe'. Might be worth asking more broadly on that one.
PS: Icon column seems to be single click already, not double click.
PPS: I didn't realise you could double click the other attributes (e.g. recurrence).
zajchapp
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zajchapp wrote: to prevent accidentally opening a dialog. At the moment, most of the grid is 'safe'. This was in fact the stimulus for raising it with you, and now you've reinforced my own concerns, I might hold back on this until 6.7 when I can add a preference to enable it more widely.
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Sounds reasonable. I can wait .
Once this is all in place, it will enable better management of projects in my opinion. For instance, it will allow easy 'traffic light" reporting. E.g. attributes such as cost, scope, schedule could have 3 icons - green light, amber light, and red light (on track, at risk, behind). Great for visual assessment of the status of a project - or several projects - over a bunch of attributes.
zajchapp
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zajchapp wrote: attributes such as cost, scope, schedule could have 3 icons Could you explain this a bit more pls?
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Sorry, a bit of a throwaway comment about a specific use. And possibly not core to what TDL tries to achieve.
When reporting on projects to sponsors / managers etc, there are often a set of key parameters reported on. These cover the key aspects of a project, such as scope, cost, risk, benefit etc... This is also often used when reporting on the status of multiple projects in a project portfolio.
A simple, visual mechanism used to report on the state of a project is the traffic light system - green is good, amber shows risk, and red indicates a serious issue.
My thinking is that with the icon sets, TDL will be able to be used for reporting on a list of projects. Each of the aspects will be a custom attribute. Each of the attributes could have 3 icons assigned - green, amber, and red traffic lights. This would probably be a tasklist with a list of projects, providing a high level summary of the state of all projects. Perhaps you would also include some of the major phases as sub-tasks. Combining this with the Gantt chart, would be great for managing a portfolio of projects.
The only concern would be that it would probably need to be a separate tasklist to the project tasklist, as the columns needed for the portfolio would be different to those of the project. There may be >10 key aspects of a project in the portfolio. Being able to hide certain columns would of course solve this...
zajchapp
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