Thinking a bit more, perhaps I don't need a new attribute type at all, just extend the 'single-selection-fixed-list' attribute to support images, and support 'click-cycling'.
This is great news, as this is what I was actually after (if I understand you correctly).
For instance, I am keen to use this for replacing the status attribute - therefore the Task grid would have icons instead of words (more visual, less space used), and you would be able to cycle through the statuses. I assume it wouldn't be possible to add icons to the current built in attributes like status?
Thanks again for considering this - very keen on this functionality.
Some columns in the task tree respond to double-clicking (task icon, file-link, recurrence, reminders, dependencies) and others to single-clicking with a cursor changes (time-tracking, flag).
There is no obvious logic to this, so I propose to change all such editing (including list-cycling) to be single-click /cursor. This is actually better than double-clicking because the 'hand' cursor indicates that an edit action is possible, and therefore prompts the user to explore the UI.
I would agree with your thinking.
I guess the only concern I have would be that you would need to be more careful where you click on the grid when selecting tasks. Safest would then be to always click on the title, rather than the rest of the grid, to prevent accidentally opening a dialog. At the moment, most of the grid is 'safe'. Might be worth asking more broadly on that one.
PS: Icon column seems to be single click already, not double click.
PPS: I didn't realise you could double click the other attributes (e.g. recurrence).
Once this is all in place, it will enable better management of projects in my opinion. For instance, it will allow easy 'traffic light" reporting. E.g. attributes such as cost, scope, schedule could have 3 icons - green light, amber light, and red light (on track, at risk, behind). Great for visual assessment of the status of a project - or several projects - over a bunch of attributes.
Sorry, a bit of a throwaway comment about a specific use. And possibly not core to what TDL tries to achieve.
When reporting on projects to sponsors / managers etc, there are often a set of key parameters reported on. These cover the key aspects of a project, such as scope, cost, risk, benefit etc... This is also often used when reporting on the status of multiple projects in a project portfolio.
A simple, visual mechanism used to report on the state of a project is the traffic light system - green is good, amber shows risk, and red indicates a serious issue.
My thinking is that with the icon sets, TDL will be able to be used for reporting on a list of projects. Each of the aspects will be a custom attribute. Each of the attributes could have 3 icons assigned - green, amber, and red traffic lights. This would probably be a tasklist with a list of projects, providing a high level summary of the state of all projects. Perhaps you would also include some of the major phases as sub-tasks. Combining this with the Gantt chart, would be great for managing a portfolio of projects.
The only concern would be that it would probably need to be a separate tasklist to the project tasklist, as the columns needed for the portfolio would be different to those of the project. There may be >10 key aspects of a project in the portfolio. Being able to hide certain columns would of course solve this...
Will this approach still allow a selection box in the filter and edit bars?
Yes and Yes.
Does this change the implementation date?
It will be available for the first Dev Release of 6.7. Indeed, the implementation of the edit field is already done, I just need to add support for filtering on custom attributes, which could be quite involved so this aspect may follow in a later Dev Release.
I am a "power user" of ToDoList and like it very much. In fact, I have used it so much that I think I have reached some type of limit! Is there actually a limit on the file size or number of tasks?
The file size is up to 8MB and there are thousands of tasks. It has been taking around 45 seconds to save the file and it always says "Not Responding" after about 10 seconds when saving, but then "comes back" when done saving.
About a month a ago, I reported that my tasks sometime disappear from view (when marked as "complete"), but now something else is happening:
Recently I have noticed that some tasks have literally disappeared (by themselves). I know I did not delete them accidently and I am not sure exactly when/how they disappear (so I cannot tell you how to recreate how to make it happen), but I can send you my TDL file, if you want.
Any help or advise you can give would be greatly appreaciated, as I just recently switched to using ToDoList for my projects at work and want to continue to use it. Thanks!
Actually I am not totally sure that this issue is due to the size of the TDL file. That is just a guess on my part.
However, I am definitely experiencing a bunch of sub-tasks disappearing in random places at random times (not sure why). Also, something that started to happen again is that suddenly, all of inheritable columns for all of my tasks get cleared out and are just blank. I reported this once before, and thought it stopped happening, but it started again. Maybe this is related to the "disappearing tasks" problem?
Anyway, It seems like I may be the only one having this problem, so that is strange. I already sent my preferences file. Any help with this would be appreciated, since nothing I am trying is helping and I am out of ideas. Thanks!
Thanks for working on this, Dan. I really appreciate it and I know you are committed to making ToDoList the best it can be for everybody.
I am (and will be) continuing to use ToDoList because I have transferred all my tasks to it (was using TimeTo, Stickies & paper) and it works great for me. However, it's a little scary with these strange, seemingly random, things happening.
Since it seems like I am the only one having this issue, I wouldn't be surprised if it is something I did wrong. I hope you can, eventually, find out what's happening to my tasks. If you need any more files or info, please let me know. Thanks!
Sorry about the delayed response. No, they didn't get archived. Automatic archiving is not turned on.
Some tasks actually disappeared for some reason. I can't tell why/when this happens because I am probably not finding out they are missing right away after it happens.
I am currently using version 6.5.10 and I haven't noticed any missing tasks lately, but I can't be sure this isn't still happening.
I need to go to my backup files and try to restore some missing tasks, somehow, but I was hoping to confirm the issue no longer exists first (otherwise things might disappear again). If you have any ideas or anything I can try to figure this out, I would appreciate it. I mentioned that my TDL file was getting big, but I really don't know if that has anything to do with it. I will keep an eye on the size of the TDL file to try and determine if tasks are still disappearing or not. Thanks!
I've been using 6.6 since alpha 1. My main task list, which I started in alpha 3, is at version 664, has 192 tasks, and is 540 KB. The two alpha features that I've used are
Calculate a parent task's due date as being the latest of its subtasks' due dates
Calculate a parent task's start date as being the earliest/latest of its subtasks' start dates
And they are working fine.
I'm in TDL off and on about 8 hours a day, sorting, filtering, switching between the views, and switching between fullscreen comments, the fullscreen tasklist, and the split-screen. I write or add to lengthy rich-text comments that include tables, formatting, and links. I use the timer when working on tasks and log the time. I export to .csv and use many of the other features besides. I've lost no data, TDL is stable, and I'm able to keep track of everything that I'm working on in a 6-month multi-phase project. So, I think 6.6 is definitely ready for beta.
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