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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIoPjfLnEFY&feature=youtube_gdata_player[^]
Could it really have been planned in advance - by the government. I usually label this kinda thing as a crackpot conspiracy theory, but some interesting points are made - right up to the end of this 30-minute video, and especially at the end of it.
This is solidly in the category of "things that make you go 'Hmmmm'."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Can you summarize the content?
The problem with conspiracies, especially one where so many people would be involved, is how to keep it a secret? For instance, the people that would have had to create the web sites a day or so before it happened, allegedly, would they not have wondered what on earth was going on? What about the children? If they weren't really shot, where are they?
It is a terrible shame that such a tragedy becomes the subject of such melodrama.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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You really gotta watch it. There are too many things in it, and I know I'll miss something or remember incorrectly. At the end of the video, they cite several Sandy Hook donation pages that were created several days BEFORE the incident. Of course, the pages have by now been removed, but they have video of in-browser displays of these pages.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I'll try when I get home. I always take these things with a big pinch of salt; after all, what is the motivation that could possibly require killing children in cold blood?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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I think many of the conspiracy believers don't think there was a killing of children.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Could it really have been planned in advance - by the government
Evil Obama! I can hear his cynical laughter...
Also, 9/11 was staged by Dumbya. They have lots of videos to prove it.
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Le Gauchiste wrote: Evil Obama!
I don't think Obama is evil... just a thinly veiled socialist. 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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Thinly?
There is no veil.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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even so, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
The two parties have been rocking back and forth so long it was beginning to have less and less movement. Nothing like a little "out of the norm" to get things moving again.
If it moves, compile it
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I admit I haven't watched all of it, but anyway: "It kills your children" is one of those emotional triggers you can use to make people abandon all sense and logic. So yes, if you wanted to get rid of the 2nd amendment (or reduce it somehow), having a bunch of children shot could be a good solid part of your strategy. Without too much effort you would create an environment where your opposition would be seen by many as "the people who want my child to get murdered".
It's an excellent strategy, if you can keep the leaks under control. Make sure to paint those telling the truth (or anything sufficiently close to it) as crackpots. Discredit them in any way possible. Poison the well. Use black and grey propaganda.
Of course I'm not saying any of this happened - just that it would be a good strategy.
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Yeah, just like them changing "assault weapon" to "weapon of war" in the last couple of weeks. What they don't seem to understand is that "weapons of war" are EXACTLY what the 2nd Amendment guarantees that we can own.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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people who perform acts like this will always be around. You can kill the same number of children with a billy club. Or you could choke them out and eat them. Guns are not necessary for violence and evil, they just happen to be there now.
I wonder how many cereal killers used guns to kill the victims? (I also wonder how many used cereal)
Animals kill other animals. We come stock with weapons, and there are many creative , as well as bland, ways to do violence other animals. This scenerio had a gun, but that is just this scenerio.
If it moves, compile it
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loctrice wrote: cereal killers
You need a gun to get your oatmeal? 
I think you meant 'serial'.
Bob Dole The internet is a great way to get on the net.
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Do you know why your other message was removed? I didn't see anything in it that was spammish or even remotely offensive.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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It says "Message removed" not "Message automatically removed"... the poster removed it himself - for whatever reason.
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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loctrice wrote: You can kill the same number of children with a billy club. Or you could choke them out and eat them
Sure you can, but you would have to make sure nobody is there to stop you, tie all children before so they don't run away, and make sure you have plenty of time to do it.
Mass killing with a club is much more difficult.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What they don't seem to understand
Oh yes the do understand that! And that's why they want to severely restrict or even eliminate the 2nd Amendment.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Things like this make me go Hmm.[^]
If it had been staged by the government they'd have done it somewhere well known for lax gun control laws. Such as Texas, or some of the flat states. Then it would have been a rather clear cut case of there not even being laws to stop the person from getting the gun. As it stands it's a mind numbing case of the laws very nearly working only to have a lack of security at the owner's end be the failure point. Then again, I don't think anyone ever expects their own kid to shoot them.
As it stands, NY is now passing additional control laws which still don't address the failure point of the hook shooting, aside from a possible misdemeanor charge if they're some how caught with unsecured firearms. But then we also had some psycho unload on emergency responders after starting his house on fire because he was feeling like dying/killing something. I say psycho here without reservation as he'd previously beaten a 90 year old woman to death with a hammer. The new law does include various mental health provisions likely driven by both the Hook and local psycho incidents.
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Actually, a strict gun control state would be a better choice because it would illustrate that the gun control laws in place right now aren't sufficient.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Agree with which part? That a strict gun control state would be the perfect place, or that gun control laws aren't strict enough?
(I think I already know what you're gonna say.)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
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... in black helicopters based at FEMA death camps
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Transvestites - Roberts in Disguise!
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I looked over the video and other sources late last night.
Usually in this sort of situation, there's a lot of suspicion but no solid proof. This case appears to be different: people have actually uncovered indisputable proof of fraud.
People published information about the shooting on the web before the shooting occurred, sometimes even days before the shooting occurred. Right now, the Bing search engine still has a cached copy of a newspaper article timestamped the day before the shooting containing a reference to an interview with the school principal's account of the shooting.
That school principal died in the shooting, so unless journalists have the magic powers to do seances with ghosts from the future, we have a serious problem.
Edit: bing cache link, still working:
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?d=27022733625131571&w=yZ8j1YFE_Mw[^]
modified 16 Jan '13 - 19:52.
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jesarg wrote: ight now, the Bing search engine still has a cached copy of a newspaper article timestamped the day before the shooting containing a reference to an interview with the school principal's account of the shooting.
Did you save them?
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