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modified on Monday, August 23, 2010 1:47 PM
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No idea where IPL is heading as it is facing some serious issues like spot fixing and and now Sahara chose to be out of IPL. It looks like BCCI does not have any control on this event.
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Good thing - now Sahara can concentrate on doing more important things like making their businesses profitable.
If only the others pull out and the government starts to give a damn about other real sports... Oh, well. I'm asking for too much. 
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Exactly..!! Its good for them.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: If only the others pull out and the government starts to give a damn about other real sports...
Government does not give a damn to cricket as well. Yes, few people in the govt. are running the cricket but cricket does not get any aid from government. Yes, Now Sahara can sponsor other games and contribute to get gold medal in Olympics.
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What's this got to do with the government? Cricket is just India's most popular sport and that's how it is. There are more people who talk about cricket, watch cricket, and read about cricket than there are people who are into other sports. maybe this will change in future, but it's crazy to expect the government to force people to change their interests.
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I think you wanted to reply to me. 
The government is to be blamed because they're not showing any support whatsoever for any other sport. Of course the people are to be blamed because they've made these cricket players like celebrities and they don't care about or want to watch any other sport, so this isn't going to solve itself.
But then our netas are busy with a multitude of scams, so nothing is going to happen.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: I think you wanted to reply to me.
No, I was replying to the other guy - since he said the govt does not do anything about other sports. My point was the govt does not do anything about cricket either. The BCCI works as a private non-profit organization as far as I know.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
The government is to be blamed because they're not showing any support
whatsoever for any other sport. Of course the people are to be blamed because
they've made these cricket players like celebrities and they don't care about or
want to watch any other sport, so this isn't going to solve itself.
What's wrong if people like one particular sport? Why force other sports on people? Isn't that what living in a free country is all about?
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Nish Sivakumar wrote: My point was the govt does not do anything about cricket either
That's incorrect.[^]
Nish Sivakumar wrote: What's wrong if people like one particular sport? Why force other sports on people? Isn't that what living in a free country is all about?
Because if no interest is shown towards any other games, the other games will eventually perish. The cricketers aren't being exactly loyal to their fans as such. Of course, in a free country, I'm allowed to speak my mind too; I'm not "forcing other sports" on anyone, but merely stating what I think will be better.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: That's
incorrect.[^]
Most of it was politicians trying to do the popular thing.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Of course, in a free country, I'm allowed to speak my mind too
And thankfully, some of us are similarly free to ignore it 
I get your point, but I don't agree with it. That's all. Maybe in countries like China or Saudi Arabia your ideas would gel in better, but not in open democracies like India!
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Nish Sivakumar wrote: Most of it was politicians trying to do the popular thing.
Politicians ARE government.
Nish Sivakumar wrote: And thankfully, some of us are similarly free to ignore it
Although you chose not to ignore it, if I may...
Nish Sivakumar wrote: China or Saudi Arabia
I'd rather keep ranting in India rather than being in one of those miserable hell holes.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Although you chose not to ignore it, if I may...
Ignore was wrong usage, rejecting is the right one. My bad!
That said, I am always baffled by how people are often so mad about cricketers. You even used abusive verbiage to refer to them. Is it because they make so much money? If so, you probably should have similar attitude towards Bollywood actors too I presume? [I am nearly sure the answer'd be yes, but just confirming]
I am a little more non-confrontational by nature, and I know that sorta leaves me in the minority. And that may explain why I am not affected by these things all the time.
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Nish Sivakumar wrote: ou even used abusive verbiage to refer to them. Is it because they make so much money?
I am being abusive because they're backstabbing the very fans who helped them go up the ladder. The recent scam was deeply saddening, and the news floating around it suggesting that many matches are usually fixed is driving me insane, because there are millions of people who are crazy about it, and they leave everything else behind to watch this. Although I'm not a fan of this sport, it upsets me to think that some of those players are being completely ungrateful bastards.
And no, I have no specific opinions about any bollywood (or any other wood) actors. I respect people like Aamir Khan though, for all the good that they're trying to do to our country.
I don't care how much anyone earns, although I'd be able to appreciate rich people who are at least a little into philanthropy.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Well, I am a pretty big fan, and I am not too upset or offended by the fixing allegations. Some level of fixing will happen in any sport with multi-million dollar betting syndicates. Particularly so where betting is not legal. Also, in the current case, the cops are yet to provide any solid evidence other than factually un-backed words and pointing out how these cricketers have been spending 2-3 lakhs on clothing/liquor. As if spending money is a crime. What's crazy is that these guys make crores, so a few lakhs to them is a few 1000s to you or me.
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That said, we have affirmative action for backward caste people and women, so perhaps you are suggesting that we do something similar for soccer, tennis, badminton etc. ?
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Something like that. Cricketers (even average douchebags) earn a lot of money and fame, whereas extremely good sportsmen (Mary Kom, Sushil Kumar, etc.) are unheard of until they win medals in the Olympics.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Well women's boxing is not particularly big in any country as far as I know, so that's not going to be easy. The government could give tax breaks to people following those sports though, and give TV channels subsidies so they can easily telecast those live even if there aren't enough advertisements to cover the cost. It's questionable whether people'd watch it though.
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Mary is an example I gave. We don't need to watch "women's boxing", but boxing. It shouldn't matter if it's a woman or man participating in a sport [unless it's mud wrestling ]. Again, there are other things like Chess, Badminton, Hockey (national game, ye know...), Football, and so on.
If we don't even do something towards the betterment of those sports, we can't predict that people won't watch it.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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A lot of it is already on TV, just not as interesting to watch I guess. People got into tennis for a while when Leander, Mahesh, and Sania were doing well. So the key is for an Indian sportsperson to succeed really well at the international level.
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Let's just say that most our folks are interested only in cricket.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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It's kinda similar in the US, except with football (American) and basketball taking the lead closely followed by baseball. Most other sports, including tennis and golf are a little behind the big 3.
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The IPL team investment was supposed to be a profit maker for them, just that things did not work out as they hoped to. Most of the other teams are doing well though, specially teams like Bangalore and KKR.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: If only the others pull out and the government starts to give a damn about other real sports...
Recently I saw the below picture somewhere. Got this page by google search.
Kabaddi players back to auto rickshaw[^]
thatrajaNobody remains a virgin, Life screws everyone
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thatraja wrote: Nobody remains a virgin, Life screws everyone
That's a depressing signature you got there
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That's a very unfortunate sight. There's zero appreciation for those who achieve something great in a sport other than cricket.  "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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8 teams work better in my opinion! We don't have enough of a player pool for 9-10 teams.
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