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Re: 34% of data breaches are inside jobs

Eddy Vluggen15-Jan-20 6:59

Eddy Vluggen

15-Jan-20 6:59

We're in the wrong universe.

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Re: 34% of data breaches are inside jobs

Mark_Wallace15-Jan-20 8:44

Mark_Wallace

15-Jan-20 8:44

A better one!

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Facebook taught its AI to speak math

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 11:15

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 11:15

Engadget[^]:
Because wiping the deck with us over games of Go really isn't that tough anymore.

2b | !2b?

Computer Does Sums

Mark_Wallace14-Jan-20 19:24

Mark_Wallace

14-Jan-20 19:24

Huge news.

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C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 9:15

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 9:15

Steve Gordon[^]:
In this post, I introduce a simple new language feature of C# 8 called using declarations.

As opposed to using statements, using blocks, and using hard drugs

mostly

Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

ZurdoDev14-Jan-20 10:13

ZurdoDev

14-Jan-20 10:13

The most useful using was actually in VB.

Using someObject
  .Property1 = ""
  .Property2 = somethingElse
  .Etc = 42
End Using

I do miss that since I've been doing c# forever now.

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Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 10:15

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 10:15

I thought I remembered some other use for using... Dang, but it's been ages since I've written any VB either. Frown | :(

TTFN - Kent

Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Sander Rossel14-Jan-20 20:26

Sander Rossel

14-Jan-20 20:26

No reason to miss that feature.
C# has it, but better and cleaner...
Especially the indentation behavior in VS for VB sucks, it's really terrible, but works as you'd expect in C#.
Also, no need to turn Option Strict Off for anonymous types and mess up a whole file... Or isn't that necessary anymore?

var so = new SomeObject // omit type declaration for an anonymous object.
{
   .Property1 = "",
   .Property2 = somethingElse,
   .Etc = 42
};

Best,
Sander

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Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Rob Grainger14-Jan-20 23:18

Rob Grainger

14-Jan-20 23:18

That's not the same feature. This is for object initialisation, the VB one can be used on any object at any time.

IIRC there were very good reasons for avoiding it. I cannot recall the details any more though.

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Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Rob Grainger14-Jan-20 23:27

Rob Grainger

14-Jan-20 23:27

Further, it seems that you're "using" the wrong statement, you're thinking of "With".

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Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Sander Rossel15-Jan-20 1:57

Sander Rossel

15-Jan-20 1:57

Oh, I'm thinking of With, yeah.
But C# has using too...
So in that case I'm not sure what you mean.
Are you just setting some properties without having to type the variable name? Confused | :confused:

Best,
Sander

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Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure
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Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Dan Neely15-Jan-20 2:42

Dan Neely

15-Jan-20 2:42

Yes. The VB using syntax can be done any time; not just when creating the object.

Turbo Pascal had something similar and I've missed it for the last 20+ years.

PS thanks for making me feel old this morning. Cry | :((

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Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Sander Rossel15-Jan-20 3:09

Sander Rossel

15-Jan-20 3:09

Dan Neely wrote:
and I've missed it

Have you really missed it?
Sounds like just some syntactic sugar to me... Sniff | :^)

Dan Neely wrote:
PS thanks for making me feel old this morning.

It beats not getting old so you're welcome Wink | ;)

Best,
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Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Dan Neely15-Jan-20 3:20

Dan Neely

15-Jan-20 3:20

Sander Rossel wrote:
Dan Neely wrote:
and I've missed it
Have you really missed it?
Sounds like just some syntactic sugar to me...

Really nice syntactic sugar.

If I wanted to keep everything in the language as verbose as it was 15+ years ago, I'd do Java instead. Virtually nothing is being done to deverbose that language. Dead | X|

Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

Bernhard Hiller14-Jan-20 22:15

Bernhard Hiller

14-Jan-20 22:15

What a long article, just for introducing a short style of writing.

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Re: C# 8.0: Understanding Using declarations

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz15-Jan-20 5:58

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

15-Jan-20 5:58

Cool. Finally! It always bugged me to have to use the brackets and needlessly create nested scopes.

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Verizon Media launches OneSearch, a privacy-focused search engine

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 9:00

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 9:00

Venture Beat[^]:
Verizon Media, the media and digital offshoot of telecommunications giant Verizon, has launched a “privacy-focused” search engine called OneSearch.

You know it's private, because they tell you!

Because if you want to trust someone, it would definitely be those great telecom companies, right?

Re: Verizon Media launches OneSearch, a privacy-focused search engine

Dan Neely15-Jan-20 2:44

Dan Neely

15-Jan-20 2:44

Kent Sharkey wrote:
Because if you want to trust someone, it would definitely be those great telecom companies, right?

I trust them to have secretly developed a new and innovative way to violate my privacy in spite of all their lying promises to not do so.

Dead | X|

C# 9 proposals: Module Initializers

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 7:45

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 7:45

InfoQ[^]:
A “module initializer” is a function that is run when an assembly is first loaded. In many ways this is like a static constructor in C#, but rather than applying to one class it applies to the entire assembly.

We all have to start somewhere

This one scares me for some reason. I guess it's because I can imagine someone stuffing something into an assembly to autorun when loaded.

Re: C# 9 proposals: Module Initializers

Richard Deeming14-Jan-20 9:32

Richard Deeming

14-Jan-20 9:32

It sounds similar to the PreApplicationStartMethod attribute from ASP.NET:
PreApplicationStartMethodAttribute Class (System.Web) | Microsoft Docs[^]
Three Hidden Extensibility Gems in ASP.NET 4 | You’ve Been Haacked[^]

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Re: C# 9 proposals: Module Initializers

Richard Andrew x6414-Jan-20 12:40

Richard Andrew x64

14-Jan-20 12:40

Thread Local Storage callbacks, anyone?

The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.

Microsoft will patch Windows 10 after the NSA quietly told it about a major vulnerability

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 6:45

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 6:45

CNBC[^]:
The cooperation is somewhat of a departure. In the past the NSA has kept some flaws secret to use them as part of the U.S. tech arsenal.

The backdoor expired?

I'm sure it's a coincidence this falls on the day Win7 support ends?

"It is unclear how long the NSA knew about the flaw before reporting it to Microsoft." Long enough?

The shapes of code

Kent Sharkey14-Jan-20 6:30

Kent Sharkey

14-Jan-20 6:30

Fluent C++[^]:
Every piece of code we write is unique, or pretty much. However, there are things that are common in a lot of code, even across various codebases, and even across various languages: the physical shape that code has.

"Methinks it is like a weasel"

Re: The shapes of code

jeron114-Jan-20 6:58

jeron1

14-Jan-20 6:58

Quote:
Shapes of ~~things~~ code before my eyes
Just teach me to despise

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Re: The shapes of code

Mark_Wallace14-Jan-20 7:18

Mark_Wallace

14-Jan-20 7:18

You only have to worry if it weighs the same as a duck.

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