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I agree totally with you, submitting to all search engines could even bring contra effect. Too many query at search engines could probably mean your spamming.
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The good: Yes, most of the facts are correct: Only about 10 search engines really matter.
The bad: This is really low level beginners stuff. Submitting your site won't hurt your ranking or get you banned - and it will help you get in there sooner - the sooner the better. Using a good tool will allow you to submit quickly, and more importantly, allow you to re-submit it within seconds to all systems when you make important changes.
The most important ranking factors today: - Good Content - yes, google can often tell the difference - Good incoming links - yes, google can tell the diff. - Forget the Meta tags, they are almost worthless - Good word-densities (big subject - research it)
Cheers
Daniel Mettler, 2sic Internet Solutions, Switzerland
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Hello
> Forget the Meta tags, they are almost worthless
I thought so too. But it happens from time to time that I search something and Google returns me pages which have nothing to do with my query words. Seaching for one of the query words in the result page shows that the word simply does not exist on the page.
Analyzing the sourcecode results that the ONLY existence of this word is in a META tag !
So they are still in use!
Elmü
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I agree with the not submitting to search engines. Just recently I heard about this and how some search engines might ban your site for using SEO tools that monitor your rating or submit you to tons of engines. Even Google has a section on how you can get your site banned using such tools.
Back to the article, well, the section about finding sources to link to your site is screaming to me so loud, I can hardly stand it. Hope it does not offend anyone..
You need to make sure that the links are plain old anchors on the sites you hope to get indexed from. Some places will like them in javascript and crawlers will not see them (as in directories where they have a temporary page come up while they redirect to you).
An easy place to get a free link is at my site HintsAndTips.com. When you become a member, you have a profile somewhat like here on CP. When you post a tip and my site is indexed, the URL out of your profile will be displayed on the top part of the tip to help move search engines to your site. The are plain anchor type urls and HintsAndTips have the main search engines indexing the site regularly.
This feature on HintsAndTips was built intentionally to give something back to those that posted tips in that it would promote their web sites (even have that as a section in the advertising page on there).
Not only do you want links, but the more content based the links are the better the search engines like them. If you are just listed in a list of links they can skip them or flag them as low priority. If the link is in a page which is rich with keywords in the text that go along with your site, it will have more importance.
As an example, if your site was dealing with cars and you posted a tips about cars, the matching keywords can help your rating.
Another factor of links with search engines is the ranking of the site which you have your link. The better the ranking the more importance you link will have.
WARNING: It is not wise to get in on link exchanges where they post pages of links. Some search engines will consider this as trying to trick them and can even get your site banned. All links are not created equal.
Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Includes Developer Tips www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33
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What exactly is a link exchange? My understanding is that it's a page on a website that contains nothing but links to other pages who in turn have pages with links that in turn links to your page.
I've found these articles useful, since I'm a complete newbie at websites and search engines.
Regards, William
Are your IE6 web page printouts cut off on the right hand side? - Get PrintPunk.
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First, sorry for taking so long to reply, it seems email notifications were not getting through so I did not know you replied.
Some link exchanges are sites that will put your link in the list of links if you place a reciprocal link on your links page. This used to work out well for search engine traffic since the more links point to your site used to mean the higher you would appear in ranking. Nowadays, many search engines actually count some of these against your rating and can even lead to banning your site. It depends on the type of list you are on and if there is any content or just list of links. One important factor here is the number of links on a links page, too many is bad.
The best form of links you can get are those that actually have some content on the page where your link resides and the content somehow ties to the content on your site to which the link points. Another factor is if you have a higher ranking site link to your site search engines usually give greater importance to the link.
Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Includes Developer Tips www.MyQuickPoll.com - Now with Recent Poll List
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As I am just starting to develop WEB-sites, so this kind of articles mare pretty neat to read. So, if I am including my website here, do the engines spiders find me here?
Let us see: http://www.kando-it.nl
Ehm, how do I include a link to my site here? 
But, joking apart, I love such articles that also give backgroundinfo.
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I do not know about forums specifically, but sometimes search engines do not crawl sites with lots of dynamic links such as is common in forums and other paged content data.
When I was first launching HintsAndTips.com, the paging of the tips caused several of the top search engines to only crawl a few levels and then stop. I used URL Rewiting so that instead of a long url with many parameters, I embedded the parameters in the URL. After this was complete, the search engines seems to index most of the pages.
From my logs MSN is the most active bot, indexing the site quite often.
Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Includes Developer Tips www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33
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Nice article. Thanks.
Although, I think you'd get a better rating if the content linked to on your own web-site was included in the article. My first thought was that you were trying to improve your own sites page rank 
Still some interesting insights. More articles would be welcomed.
Michael
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Anonymous wrote: This article has absolutely nothing to do with programming
CP isn't a pure programming site. It has lots of articles that aren't programming related but are related to software development. This is certain a subject that is related to web-development.
I know very little about the ins and outs of search engines and welcome these kinds of articles. Although I'd have liked a little more detail in this article, it is still an interesting read.
Michael
CP Blog [^]
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Given that many webdevelopers find userful articles on this sweet site, it is my opinion that this article and similar articles discussing and explaining how to use searchengines to publish your site as valuable information, and I welcome them.
I have read articles explaining how Google (one of the most used search engines out there) ranks hits, and it made my ranking improve when searching for text on my site.
I would love to read more about how Altavista and Yahoo does it.
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I have to agree with a few posts in this thread. There are many web developers here and search engines are a part of our life. Not exactly sure where they information should be placed, but I welcome the information.
Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Includes Developer Tips www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33
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