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In my last Interview they gave me 4 problem to solve. They said solve at least one if possible two
within hour I solved two. Then they call me again.
In the interview board they asked me whether I have developed any web service using PHP. I said no I didn't. Then I realized by web service they mean something else. So I asked what is web service? they replied that "the page that is executed by php is called web service". then they let me know that they cant hire me cause I don't have enough experience. (I have over 3 f***ing year experience) they are looking for one year experienced programmer.
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johny10151981 wrote: "the page that is executed by php is called web service
I am very very certain I don't want to work there.
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I did, but they didn't want me to work, cause I never developed Web Service. Do you know what kind of webservice they develop? Forum
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lol,
i know what is that mean. 
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My hard-worked reputation turns to -456.  I just forgot to tag this lounge post as a [ Joke].
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And you only noticed 20 hours later!
It also does not help that it was a fire and forget, no responses from you to alleviate the issue.
Then whining about it is not going to help your case either.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I suspect that it would take far more than one terminally stupid post to generate that many negative points. We usually reserve that much abuse for really obnoxious trolls. Such a low score indicates a pattern of extremely bad posts which few can accumulate without trying. No one does so accidentally. Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional acorn, and even the least welcome members of the community occasionally post something intelligent enough to get up-voted. If this rating is truly a surprise to you, I suggest that you take a break, spend some time grazing the site without posting to get a sense of the community, then cautiously venture back into the stream once you've gained your bearings.
Will Rogers never met me.
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My post is of compliance with the Lounge posting rules and the fact that my post is not removed by the administrators proves that it is not abusive nor a spam. It is unjust.
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A week ago my passenger side electric window stopped working. I tested everything I could reach and found nothing wrong, so surmised that the motor was a goner. I ordered a new one and popped it in place; no joy. So I tossed aside the repair manual and started using my brain instead. I found that, with the cable to the motor disconnected, all voltages were as they should be, but with the motor plugged in, the motor rolled down correctly, but the voltage dropped to 0 when switched to the Up direction. Great... there's a wiring problem somewhere under the dash. Since that window can be operated from either side of the truck, I tried checking it from the driver side switch. From there, it works fine in the Up direction but fails when I try the Down position on the switch. Crikey! The two switches are wired in parallel - how can this happen?
I hate automotive engineers; they do everything backward. Any normal circuit leaves one side of a device grounded and switches the hot lead. But in autos, they run the hot (+12V) lead to the device, and switch the ground. That leads to some interesting side effects when a wiring fault occurs, and makes life miserable for anyone trying to diagnose a problem. This is going to take a while to figure out, and in the meantime, I have a 3/8" ratchet taped inside the door, holding the window mechanism in the Up position until I can find the fault. Grrr...
Will Rogers never met me.
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I feel your pain and pray to the gods that your car is not a BMW the electrics in them are the worst !!
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According to the ads, and consistent with the pricing, BMWs never break. Are you suggesting that their advertising is somehow less than entirely accurate?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Don't ever buy a 2000ish Jetta unless you're a masochist.
I had to go to the dealer because of my lack of knowledge for: driver side power window (twice), passenger side power window, windshield whippers, and after many trials and errors with the key programming, the whole instrument cluster.
On second thought I propably would be just as pissed if I had the knowledge. And the service was so bad for my lemon, I change my recommendation to don't ever buy a VW.
Rant over.
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I'm certainly a masochist, having been in love with a woman for fifteen years who still wants to be "just friends." But there's a limit to the amount of pain I'm willing to endure, and buying a VW isn't on my list of things to do - ever. Unless, of course, it's a vintage 1969 VW microbus with a pop-up roof; that I could deal with... 
Will Rogers never met me.
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They can be real buggers good luck.
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There's one shop in Bullhead City that does nothing but fix electrical problems. His yard is always full of vehicles, and some of them never leave. I'm thinking that this could be a good retirement income opportunity when he gets tired of doing it. There's definitely a need, and I don't foresee the market getting smaller.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Agreed! A lot of people I know, including me have electrical problems.
If you had the right tools and a big ole shade tree you could retire
with more money than ole Billy Bob Gates.
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Roger Wright wrote: But in autos, they run the hot (+12V) lead to the device, and switch the ground
I never understood this. Is it a safety thing? Or just a job security thing?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I believe it relates to having less draw on the Electrical system. 
Something worth reading, albeit it's invincible!
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I'd love to see a proof of that theory!
Will Rogers never met me.
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It's done to save wire. No need to run a ground - just connect the device to a switch that has one side connected to the chassis. It may have made sense when cars cost $500, but it hasn't for a long time.
Will Rogers never met me.
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But why can't you switch it on the live side?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Ask an automotive engineer; I just design reliable things.
I would have thought that by now, with integrated, serial-bus devices so cheap, they would include one in every device in the car, connected by a three-wire CAN bus cable - one +12, one -12, and one Comm line. I can't believe that cost is an issue anymore, and diagnostics would be far more reliable and informative.
Will Rogers never met me.
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