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and when doesn't it, in my opinion? Anyways, I got annoyed enough to blog about the Wix Toolset installer[^].
Marc
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Well... IMO this has nothing to do with Metro, more with the inability of the WiX ToolSet guys creating a proper Metro app because of not enough time invested into the porting process...
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Marco Bertschi wrote: creating a proper Metro app because of not enough time invested into the porting process...
Perhaps. But if you can't do it right, why change it? Just because somebody thought, "ooh, let's Metro-ize the installer?"
By the way, I just uninstalled Wix. I imagine some people like it, but the "out of the box" result was less than expected. Disappointing.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: By the way, I just uninstalled Wix. I imagine some people like it, but the "out of the box" result was less than expected. Disappointing.
I think the main problem of WiX is that it is a lot of handwork to create an installer with it. They don't even have the possibility of the nice UI-Dialog as InstallShield has, do they?
Marc Clifton wrote: Perhaps. But if you can't do it right, why change it?
Because there was a moronic Metro-Fanboy around who was hired in a too high position and then suddenly had the idea of "I don't care if it looks crappy, I want metro!".
I installed it too and fully share your opinion. The morons are overtaking.
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Marco Bertschi wrote: They don't even have the possibility of the nice UI-Dialog as InstallShield has, do they?
Not that I've seen, but given that it works with MSBuild XML files (I think) there must be a front-end for that. However, I downloaded InnoSetup, installed it (normal install screen), set up my very simple project, and 2 minutes later had a working installer. That is what anything, like Wix Toolset, should be capable of doing "out of the box".
Marc
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I honestly like WiX (but then again, I like the Windows Modern UI [aka. Metro]). Yes, it is a lot of typing, but the bootstrapper and whatnot make it worth it. I also like NSIS, and play with that a lot.
Inno Setup has a lot of quirks, such as not being able to use spaces in feature labels, and a few other oddities.
#Develop has a lot of useful tools for working with WiX, and using T4 Templates to create .wxs files is quite cool (you just have to make the template work!).
#Develop even has a WYSIWYG WiX dialog designer! Cool, no?
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I honestly like WiX (but then again, I also like the Windows Modern UI [aka Metro]).
#Develop has a number of useful tools for working with WiX, such as a WYSIWYG dialog designer and a number of templates. It also has a Visual Studio Setup Project style file/component manager. I have #Develop on my computer for working with WiX, and do not use VS for that at all!
EDIT: Dangnabbit Hamsters, first you tell me my first message was posted twice, don't show it, then show it after I post another one.... Just like my laptop annoyed me by spontaneously terminating due to overheating.
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The XBox UX is the closest I have come to Metro - I find I hardly use any of the XBox stuff now other than playing games because I can't be bothered to look for them.
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Hi,
Haha never heard of WiX Toolset so had a look at the link you provided at your blog to read this on their website:
The most powerful set of tools available to create your Windows installation experience 
With friendly greetings, 
Eric Goedhart
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Eric Goedhart wrote: The most powerful set of tools available to create your Windows installation experience
Well, at the moment, I don't need a starship, I need a little more than a skateboard to get me where I want to go. 
Marc
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There is something wrong when you have to write more code to install something than it did to write the "something" in the first place!
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits.
- Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most.
- I vaguely remember having a good memory...
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With that name I don't think they were interested in the German market.
"The ones who care enough to do it right care too much to compromise."
Matthew Faithfull
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: With that name I don't think they were interested in the German market.
Why, does "wix" mean something in German? (Google translate revealed nothing)
Marc
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Common usage[^].
"The ones who care enough to do it right care too much to compromise."
Matthew Faithfull
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I'm curious as to what happens when you click "Up To(sic) Date" (which has an incredibly appropriate icon -- for a tools button).
Shirley, each installer is "Up To Date" when it is released, so you'll never get one with "Not Up To Date" (unless it's claiming rights that I don't allow installers unless they explicitly ask and I manually grant them).
Or does it install an older version if you click it, then tell you it's not up to date?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I'm curious as to what happens when you click "Up To(sic) Date" (which has an incredibly appropriate icon -- for a tools button).
I didn't try clicking it, because what happened was, when the screen loaded, it first said "checking for updates" and half a second later changed to "Up To Date". The icon changed too. I only noticed it because of the brief animation while it was checking for updates.
Hence though, I also didn't see it as a clickable object but rather a status object. Who knows. I've uninstalled it at this point anyways.
The "Wix Toolset" button was also confusing. I wasn't sure if this opened local documentation, an IDE of some type, or took me to a web page. It did the latter, which was what I'd figured it would probably do.
Marc
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Just goes to show that some people can't even communicate with toys that babies can use to make words.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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