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The spot challenge for stage 2 of the Azure challenge has been posted[^].
Remember: if you missed out on completing challenge 1 you can still enter and be in the running for the remaining challenges.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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The Code Project | Co-founder
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modified 9 Dec '11 - 16:59.
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Got this :
LUFTHANSA LOTTO CELEBRATION
LOTTERY DISTRIBUTION CARETAKER
ASIA CENTRAL CONTROLLER
CHINA CENTER
Ref-HUF/EDC/WB-8456B
Batch: YHGB0934/2/01
WINNING NOTIFICATION:
ITS WITH PLEASURE THAT WE INFORM YOU OF YOUR WINNING IN THE ONGOING 2013
LUFTHANSA LOTTERY PROMOTION
YOUR SERIAL NUMBER IS SN/6702293453388, TICKET NUMBER D3B673-679-22.
AS A WINNER IN THE CATEGORY A, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO REPLY THIS EMAIL TO THE
LOTTERY CARETAKER WITH THE ABOVE MENTION
TICKET & SERIAL NUMBER.
YOUR WINNING IS VALUED AT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATE DOLLARS
($500.000.00)
YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS WAS PICKED BY THE BALLOT SYSTEM WHICH PUTS YOU AS THE
LUCKY WINNER
THIS IS AS A RESULT OF THE WEBSITES THAT YOU MAY HAVE VISITED WHILE
SURFING THE NET
WE CONGRATULATES YOU AS WE LOOK FORWARD YOUR RESPONSE IN CLAIMING YOUR
WINNING PRICE
FOR CONFIRMATION PLEASE QUOTE THE BELOW INFORMATION .
NAME:...............................................
ADDRESS:............................................
COUNTRY:............................................
PHONE NO.:..........................................
AGE:................................................
OCCUPATION: ........................................
to the LOTTERY CARETAKER-
LUISA ARIEL
LUFTHANSA LOTTERY CENTRAL OFFICE
CARETAKER ASIAN OFFICE
luisa_ariel@consultant.com
luisa_ariel@yahoo.cn
+86-15817709156
When you can afford to redistribute 500k$ to lottery winner you should be able to afford better domain name than : consultant.com or yahoo.cn....
Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^]
Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]
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I was going to comment on the grammar, too (WE CONGRATULATES YOU) but then considering the poor grammar I see on real company sites, it makes the spam no less believable.
I bet the email wasn't sent from either of those return addresses, either!
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_Maxxx_ wrote: I bet the email wasn't sent from either of those return addresses, either!
Actually it was... from the yahoo.cn one.
Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^]
Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]
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That's an email... but in here my mobile inbox is full of such SMS.. ha ha 
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Would have been nice to see what the kid actually unwrapped... it's like the punchline was missing!!
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Hey friends which music you are listening now ?
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My parrot singing... truly, after that I'll need some silence.
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Pink Floyd.
By the way it is 'listen to'. Dont ask why, English almost totally lacks logic. 
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Nothing to say.
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Actually it should be "To what are you listening?"
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My air purifier and the sound of glazed pecans crunching between my teeth.
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Daryl Braithwaite? Daryl Braithwaite!
He's still alive?
And we go riding on the horses yeah, yeah
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Not only is he alive, but he was awesome!!
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Sun raha he from Aashiqui2... Anything that goes on gaana!!
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I am listening to the music of VS2010 in the key of C# conducted by me.
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why?
Here is the story :
Today for setting up ns-3,i installed Ubuntu(through wubi) on my dev box ( Win 7 ) and spent all day inside it.
Soon after logging, the problems, started to appear.
1 - I needed to install python
2 - I needed to install TCL.
3 - I needed to install g++ ( for compiling ns-3 )
4- JAVA? No problem! In Win7 also you need to install it.
5- Adobe flash? I just installed it but after opening some tabs, Firefox started to freeze and in a rare time in Linux history ( ) desktop vanished and after some HDD LED work, it logged out and showed me the login dialog!
6 - I needed a notepad++ Linux equivalent. No chance!
7- Process Explorer Equivalent? No chance! ( i found one but it wanted to download 61MB of software !!!! )
8 - Gtalk? Yahoo Messenger? Still no chance! OK. I used Empathy, but it did not authenticated me to my yahoo account! 
9 - Foxit Reader? OK! The only tabbed applications in Linux are web browsers and Terminal window! So, no tabbed pdf viewer you can see there.
10 - I have another monitor attached to my laptop. I needed to assign the dashboard to my own preferred desktop. No Chance!
And the list goes on ....
You know, i think the whole philosophy behind current Linux development is wrong!
why?
Because it has been prepared from a developer's perspective not an ordinary user who just wants to set up his environment and start to work.
Maybe it works for some basic tasks like web surfing or word/image processing, but behind that, you are facing the terrible fact: you have to setup what ever you want by your hand and the most important is learning some scripting language ( python, bash, TCL, etc.).
Ubuntu has tried to fix this problem with its own 'Ubuntu Software Center' and it is an awesome effort, but there is still plenty of work to be done. The user should not search the web for dependencies or libraries needed for certain application to get work.
After all, i think the whole Linux culture should be changed because people out there, are not developer.
Behzad
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The Ubuntu install process is a breeze. Yes you have to know what the dependencies are, but it isnt hard to find out. But at least it works properly, install AND uninstall.
You are right to a certain extent, it is an engineers system, but when you have a problem with windows the average user is totally lost, so there isnt much difference there.
If you are suggesting some kind of automated dependency tracker is implemented in Ubuntu I would agree with you, it would make it even better.
So why not write one yourself?
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Nothing to say.
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Erudite_Eric wrote: But at least it works properly, install AND uninstall
Nope, not for me. Two years ago I put together this computer. It works fine without any trouble, but the installers for Ubuntu (and Fedora or any other Linux) don't like this combination at all and freeze up. Booting from a DVD ends up the same way.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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try having a damaged .Net install......
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Uhm.... no.
I really have enough of Mickeysoft
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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CDP1802 wrote: I really have enough of Mickeysoft
Amen there, I've been battling with there products all weak. (Yes pun intended)
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My XP box is fubared on this proble. I havent yet mustered the courage to do a manual registry rip out and reinstall.... But one day I might have to.
Oh pain, why are you called Microsoft?
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Nothing to say.
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Now, don't spoil the fun here. Create another thread to bash MS, you fat_B@S****.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Also, the UI of Ubuntu is also not to my taste. Those windows, especially the caption and border, always make me feel thick and heavy.
Am I the only one who thinks so?
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Me too.
I think Win 7 has the best UI ever, especially window color/border. Event Win 8 with its flat design is not that cool.
Behzad
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You can configure the UI through an XML file somewhere, or choose other styles. I forget where it is now, but google it.
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Nothing to say.
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Then change the look at feel. You can, for example, try Cairo-Dock or Cinnamon. You can even try the Gnome Fallback version. But if you want it to have a Microsofty-like Windows appearance, you can even try "Kubuntu"
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Behzad Sedighzadeh wrote: 6 - I needed a notepad++ Linux equivalent. No chance!
At this point, you deserve a "Clippy" to appear to help you. "Hi, it looks like you're trying to type a letter." You HAVE heard about Wine?
Behzad Sedighzadeh wrote: You know, i think the whole philosophy behind current Linux development is wrong!
You're comparing it to an environment that has "the user is dumb and evil" as a philosophy.
Force yourself to use it for a year, and come back. Aw, and do yourself a favor, install DSL instead of Ubuntu. You don't need the bloat, it's only there to make Windows-users more comfortable.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Quote: You're comparing it to an environment that has "the user is dumb and evil" as a philosophy.
Yes. Exactly. Everyone outside developer community is dumb and evil. I have had this experience whenever i ship a code.
Quote: Force yourself to use it for a year,
For a year? That's unacceptable for average user.
BTW, i had heard of DSL. I will give it a try. Thanks for suggestion.
Behzad
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Behzad Sedighzadeh wrote: 6 - I needed a notepad++ Linux equivalent. No chance!
Sublime Text 2
I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder
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You're right and no less so for being late to the party. I've said what I have to say about 'desktop' Linux so I won't repeat it but you're more than welcome to.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage."
Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Linux is good because you can spend infinite time tinkering with it and avoid doing your job.
When confronted about it, you can claim you had to download a huge tree of dependencies, half of which you had to find and install manually, and then you had to write a patch for GCC to be able to compile some things.
And you wouldn't even be lying.
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I tend to agree . Ubuntu is not suitable for my mother . Also the number of devs I see using macs tends to make me assume that there is a reason they dont use UBUNTU as their OS. I am using it right now , and I find it as reliable as windows 95 . Now I daresay that there is a config I can find that will help , and as a technical guy I enjoy that challenge , but mass market ? Not yet . BUT its getting there . And for server OS I think Linux is perfect , no worrying about licensing issues , easy command line installs , superb online community help with honest opinion .
Regards
Torrance
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Are you sure this was an Ubuntu problem, rather than because of ns-3? I haven't worked on Linux for a while, but I always found it one of the easiest systems to install and configure, on a range of hardware.
Use the best guess
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Yes. The default installation CD lacks some really useful and popular libraries.
Behzad
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That's the difference between Linux and Windows. Linux is a basic operating system, and you are free to add the additional applications you want.
Use the best guess
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Behzad Sedighzadeh wrote: Because it has been prepared from a developer's perspective not an ordinary user who just wants to set up his environment and start to work.
I agree 100%. While for a lot of things I can simply use some app, any of the nice personalization things that I am used to in Windows simply isn't there. I can't imagine trying to create a workable dev environment in it - even switch between applications with alt-tab is a klunky "WTF is it trying to do" experience. And come on, having to open a terminal window and "sudo" this, "sudo" that, is elephanting archaic.
Marc
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Your issues with Linux seem to stem from the fact that you believe the world revolves around what you want and need rather than what the average user might need. They're not going to pre-install EVERY interpreter known to man just because YOU might use it. Flash doesn't come installed because once again, it's a proprietary tool, and they haven't quite been playing nice with Linux for a bit... but one could argue Adobe has been upsetting more people than playing nice with them.
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"... a novice shooter holds one and takes aim at a target 500 yards away. Normally it takes years of practice to hit something at that distance. But this shooter nails it on the first try." [^]
"The rifle's scope features a sophisticated color graphics display. ... The rifle has a built-in laser range finder, a ballistics computer and a Wi-Fi transmitter to stream live video and audio to a nearby iPad. Every shot is recorded so it can be replayed, or posted to YouTube or Facebook."
Uh-oh.
yours, Bill
“Humans are amphibians: half spirit, half animal; as spirits they belong to the eternal world; as animals they inhabit time. While their spirit can be directed to an eternal object, their bodies, passions, and imagination are in continual change, for to be in time, means to change. Their nearest approach to constancy is undulation: repeated return to a level from which they repeatedly fall back, a series of troughs and peaks.” C.S. Lewis
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BillWoodruff wrote: Normally it takes years of practice to hit something at that distance
Really? In the first weeks of basic training they had us shooting at targets 400 m (= 437 yards) away. The rifles were older than us at that time and we joked that they could shoot around corners. Good that we did not kbow we would need years of practice back then
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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CDP1802 wrote: In the first weeks of basic training they had us shooting at targets 400 m
I thought the same thing when I read the linked article.
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CDP1802 wrote: The rifles were older than us at that time and we joked that they could shoot around corners. Good that we did not kbow we would need years of practice back then
That's no kidding I qualified with an M14.
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