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Then I guess you won't be flying. We're everywhere! 
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Well depends I guess.
The article said the gun was assembled.
So you could just carry the firing pin with you separately. I doubt that many people would know what it was seeing it on its own (I wouldn't, never handled a gun before, so definitely never seen a firing pin).
The real problem would be the bullets I think. Those everybody would notice. (of course there are ways around that as well)
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You can also make plastic bullets.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Probably not reliably. The official design has a 6oz slug of non-functional metal in it elsewhere to comply with us visible on xray machine regulations.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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This is sick, but in straight line with the theory that every new technology has first be misused to create arms, or porn.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Oh, I suspect the pr0n applications are just waiting for a "softer" plastic... 
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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.. or 3D printable batteries
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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I don't think the bullets are 3D printed, not sure if that mitigates the issue though.
Ah, you forgot to mention they want to release the plans for it!
But in answer to your point - I think buying a untraceable gun would be cheaper then 8k in many parts of the world anyway (although presumably more difficult to acquire for most people..)
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Yeah, just ask your secret services, they must have one somewhere in a cupboard.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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That's not the problem: buying an untraceable gun leaves a trail - if only in the memory of the guy you bought it from. And any cameras he has, CCTV you appeared on, and so forth.
Don't forget, the printer doesn't have to stop at just one copy...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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You want to arm simians? Christ, they are bad enough when it's only their poo they are throwing... 
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Worse, the poo wouldn't turn up on a metal detector.
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We need Simian Internment and we need it NOW!
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
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If you reclassify East Europeans as chimps then you'd get the full backing of Nigel Farage (and <shiver> he could be the next PM...)
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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If Nigel 'Gimp Boy' Farage is ever PM, I'll eat my own faeces.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
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They did well in the locals - and without the Libdems to vote for as a protest vote...
Horrific thought, but it could happen - it wouldn't take much of an increase in their vote share to make them the largest party in a coalition. And the tories aren't making many friends outside their core voters. Nor are labour, come to think of it. The only bright side in that is that at least the BNP is going back where they belong!
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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I'm sure they could have done something more useful with that awesome technology.
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That's very cool, but I wouldn't call it useful 
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It depends what you want to use it for: I'd loooove to see the look on the cats face when it started chasing him! 
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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When you can print out any design you want, why did they choose to make a damn f'ugly looking gun? 
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932
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They asked JSOP for a subject.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Prototypes are generally ugly - but it may have to do with strength of the plastic and so forth.
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Prototypes are generally ugly
When they start printing persons of the fairer gender I'm happy to wait till they get it right.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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Depending on what you call the fairer gender, the requirement could be the exact opposite.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Because you can't kill someone from far away with a plastic dick ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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They were intentionally copying a famous (among people like JSOP anyway) gun[^] from ww2.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Because the stresses involved, while using ABS plastic, necessitate very bulky designs to handle the load.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Because the stresses involved, while using ABS plastic, necessitate very bulky designs to handle the load.
You might be right - it's for that very reason I normally use extra durable condoms...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932
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Reminded me of THIS[^] (NSFW)
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932
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Well, the ABS plastic won't last that long. As it fires, the barrel will wear out quickly and accuracy will suffer.
The big problem is that this moron is releasing the plans. Then anyone with access to a 3D printer will be able to print their own untracable weapons and use them for one or two crimes, melt them down, then make new ones.
I can't wait to see the first lawsuit hit this idiot when one of "his" weapons is used to kill someone. Oh! He didn't print the gun you say?! Sure, be he took the steps necessary to research what it does take and then released that information into the public domain without reguard to the consequences.
I know. This compares a lot to the usually lawsuits against the real gun manufacturers. The difference being that real weapons are much more difficult to product by the average person and the tools and materials required to build one are far more expensive than $8,000. His version is far more accessible. There's a ton of lawyers out there just waiting to use that angle.
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From the video, it looked like the barrel is a snap-in jobbie, so it can be replaced after each shot.
And it only has to be accurate once...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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True. In any case, this tool is being so irresponsible.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: The big problem is that this moron is releasing the plans.
And you know what the best thing is... you can't do anything about it.
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Doesn't really mean anything in European countries. The gun is pretty useless without the firing pin and bullets - which are illegal to buy
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I'm not sure why people are getting upset over the manufacture of a weapon.
There is about 100 ways to kill a person available in your average home.
Seems to me the best defense is to not be the type of person someone would want to kill.
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Yeah but only a gun can be used at a distance. Completely different animal..
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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I happen to think it is less distance and more the currently politically correct topic for which to get one's panties in a wad.
Here is how people think today:
1: I'm hysterical, lonely, scared, and confused. This makes me angry. I cannot pinpoint the reason why I'm a basket case. There must be a reason for it.
2: Oh look, this person over here is hysterical over guns! I can channel all my rage into that and I'll appear sane! Plus it makes me feel better to have a target for my rage and I get to hate other people!
Later...when guns die down... it will be (or has been) global warming, big tobacco, crazy lefties, crazy righties, the hurricane, public schools, big oil, EU crisis, Adolph Hitler, white people or some other fill in the blank object for personal insanity.
The insanity is so predictable it's getting boring.
I don't even defend anything anymore because the insanity is so wishy-washy I just wait for the topic to change - the mob is this uncontrollable emotionally over-wrought bug-eyed crazy frothing at the mouth aberration of nature that it should be viewed at a distance.
So... what will next month's crazy hot topic that needs to be fixed at the cost of personal freedom be? Diet Soda? Pot? Big Cars? iPads? Who knows?
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Ashley van Gerven wrote: Yeah but only a gun can be used at a distance. Completely different animal..
Ahhhh... Did you just crawl out from the 19th century?
Do you know what a remote control plane is? The government has been using similar technology for assassinations. The media likes to call them drones.
Do you know what an electrode is? They have many purposes but one thing they can do is send a charge through explosive or inflammable material. In theory the electrode could be wired to an output of a micro-controller that is networked meaning the person could be anywhere in the world and activate "KA BLOOY".
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: The media likes to call them drones.
You have a drone at home? Nice! To clarify.. I was referring to common household items in reply to the poster's comment "available in your average home."
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Ashley van Gerven wrote: You have a drone at home? Nice!
Not yet but once my eldest is a couple more years I am sure I will be getting a few RC planes and choppers. He is already eyeing them up.
Although I am guessing you are being sarcastic... I am not.
Ashley van Gerven wrote: I was referring to common household items in reply to the poster's comment "available in your average home."
And? Do you not have RC controllers in your house? If not they invented this other thing that most people carry around with them. Think it has this "Cellular Technology" that allows you to "call" it from even a land line and it is totally wireless! Amazing stuff!
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Are you aware that armed drones and explosives are not things that ordinary people are allowed to own either?
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BobJanova wrote: Are you aware that armed drones and explosives are not things that ordinary people are allowed to own either?
And the making of Meth in a person's basement is also illegal. What does this matter?
The point that was made is common household items can be used for far more devastating effects. "Armed drones" can be constructed from a trip to Radio Shack and another trip to Ace Hardware.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Yeah, sure, like the big panic that Glock was supposed to be undetecftable.
Um, no. Bullets are metal. etc.
Untraceable...I suppose, since you are the manufacturer.
Doesn't matter though. If they don't have the gun in hand, they can't "trace" it anyway. And, if they do have it in hand, what are they tracing it for?
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Bullets can be made from plastic too.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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OriginalGriff wrote: Is there anyone who thinks this is a good idea? Because frankly, I can't see an upside...
Bad people do. And the only way to understand the nefarious capabilities of 3D printers is to demonstrate it. I would never blame the people inventing or demonstrating the capabilities, the public, lawmakers, and government need to understand their capabilities.
I truly believe that 3d printers will be the great post internet industrial revolution. Manufacturing will be in-sourced, on site, in your house, in your country. Cheap labor will no longer be an advantage (robotics never became cheaper than labor). Designs will be all that matter.
This is going to happen, the issue is when, not if.
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meh.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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OriginalGriff wrote: Is there anyone who thinks this is a good idea? Because frankly, I can't see an upside...
Yes I do.
And FYI I am not a gun owner/enthusiast.
Here is my logic. This tech proves that the government can't control or regulate arms or ANY physical component. We are still battling the world of digital regulation, and this technology shifts the regulation and control of physical items to digital (download and print.. Wallah).
While I do not want nut jobs running around with untraceable arms, it is more I do not want nut jobs running around (armed or not). Simple thoughts on that:
Does it matter if the nut job can be tracked after the fact?
Common household items can always be crafted into devastating devices, so why do we spend so much on regulating armament? If a nut job wants to cause havoc they will be able to do so no matter what (unless we live in a total police state which is unacceptable).
The gun itself is not a "YEAH!" but the technology is freaking awesome. And it is good they are showing the "evils" of the tech. We need to address it now before the tech becomes a common house hold item.
How do we address it? No freaking idea, but as many have said the problem is not armament itself but the douche bags that decide to arm themselves.
Gun toting granny highjacking[^]
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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