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GeneralRe: K ClassprotectorPete O'Hanlon6 May '13 - 23:18 
Have a 5 to boost it further.
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GeneralRe: K ClassmvpOriginalGriff6 May '13 - 23:26 
Congratulations! Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:
 
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GeneralRe: K ClassmentorKeith Barrow6 May '13 - 23:59 
OriginalGriff wrote:
"Mighty Oaks from little acorns grow"

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I still think it is funny.
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JokeRe: K ClassprofessionalT Pat7 May '13 - 20:23 
Yeah on a way to become OriginalTpat Wink | ;)
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GeneralRe: K ClassmvpOriginalGriff7 May '13 - 20:34 
You might want to step up your post rate a little... Laugh | :laugh:
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GeneralRe: K ClassprofessionalEmmanuel Medina Lopez7 May '13 - 8:41 
Nice! welcome to the 4 digits rep group Poke tongue | ;-P I'm pretty close to 2k myself
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GeneralI do not wish to cause offence, but...memberDalek Dave6 May '13 - 22:55 
Auschwitz Guard Arrested[^]
 

He claims he was only a cook.
I do not think it will help his case to claim he was in charge of the ovens.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberJohnny J.6 May '13 - 23:00 
"This is a very positive step, we welcome the arrest, I hope this will only be the first of many arrests, trials and convictions of death camp guards,"
 
Seriously - how many can there be left when it happened 68 years ago? Are they gonna put 100 year old people in jail? Exactly how big a punishment is that when they've had 60+ years in freedom before being put to jail for a few years? Confused | :confused:
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberMark_Wallace6 May '13 - 23:05 
Make it a financial penalty.
 
Take away as much money and goods as were stolen from the families that were murdered (i.e. everything), and let the scumbag's family history record him as the one who left the family in poverty.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberjim lahey6 May '13 - 23:14 
There can only be a handful left. I think at this stage it's just to make a point and nothing more. I don't see what kind of punishment and rehabilitation you can realistically carry out on people who are barely alive, let alone conscious.
GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...mentorKeith Barrow6 May '13 - 23:24 
Johnny J. wrote:
Seriously - how many can there be left when it happened 68 years ago?

According to Wolfram Alpha[^, up to 459,000 people. Assuming all guards were male, German and over 17 in 1945. I was surprised by this figure.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberJohnny J.6 May '13 - 23:32 
Keith Barrow wrote:
I was surprised by this figure.

Me too - and I'm sure that NOT all guards were male. But that doesn't mean that all 459.000 were active nazis and it certainly doesn't mean that all of them were prison guards. But the possibility does theoretically exist.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...mentorKeith Barrow6 May '13 - 23:58 
They weren't all male, nor were they all German. A better figure could be derived by getting the proportion of people working as guards/ancillary staff and mutiplying the figure by that ratio. It is hard to find figures for this. A closer rough guesstimate could be gained by getting the proportion in the Wermacht as these formed the bulk of the guards. At it's peak it had ~12,000,00 out of a male population of 39,000,000. The above figure comes down to 141,000. If we can find out the proportion of the Wermacht that worked in the camps we'd get a decent hand-waving figure I guess.
 
I'd be sursprised if the real figure is above the order of 100s.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...professionalJörgen Andersson7 May '13 - 1:31 
The camps were run not run by the wehrmacht, they were run by the SS, so you can cut the numbers even further.
But I made a shortcut, according to Wikipedia[^] the amount of guards in the camps were around 55000
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...mentorKeith Barrow7 May '13 - 1:58 
Thanks, I couldn't find that figure.
Using this[^] rather worrying looking page: we can guestimate an "eligible" population to work in the camps at ~12,000,000 (in 1939), the proportion of which who actually ended up working there was ~0.5%.
 
Given a consistent mortality rate for those who worked as guards and those who didn't (a bad assumption, many will have been hung/killed etc)
 
459,000 * 0.5% = 2295.
 
This seems a reasonable guestimate of the number left.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...mvpEddy Vluggen7 May '13 - 0:28 
Johnny J. wrote:
I hope this will [only] be
..the start of my career and financially very rewarding.
 
Motivations aren't that hard to point.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberW Balboos7 May '13 - 0:44 
The point is to let people that commit crimes such as this - organized systematic mass murder - that they'll never be able to stop looking over their shoulder. Never feel safe. Never be able to live a normal life. Dream about how the noose will feel around their neck when they hang.
 
This was a crime beyond calculation in its horror. Numbers, even pictures, don't give the true depth of it. Even something like the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC - with neat piles of people-stuff, each bit representing another life, can only begin to display a level of inhuman depravity.
 
So, let them be 100 years old - and string them up. The only caveat: if they have family I'd make them all watch.


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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberDan Neely7 May '13 - 2:48 
Johnny J. wrote:
Seriously - how many can there be left when it happened 68 years ago?

 
It's the fact that there're so few left now that's driving them to go after every low level dirtbag that's left. 60 years ago taking every flunky involved to trial would have been logistically impossible even if all the ones who ran and hid could be found; now there're only a handful left and the hammer can be brought down on each survivor.
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberBobJanova6 May '13 - 23:05 
Heh heh.
 
If he was only a cook, or a low level guard, though, it doesn't seem right to go after him. Are we going to arrest everyone who ran PoW camps anywhere else in the world as well? I hope there's good evidence that he knew more was going on than a PoW camp.
GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberW Balboos7 May '13 - 0:38 
Seriously - not know what's going on? POW - full of civilians?


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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberBobJanova7 May '13 - 0:58 
That depends how many lies and distortions the people who were arranging these things told.
GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberLabVIEWstuff7 May '13 - 2:51 
a.k.a an Internment Camp?
 
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GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...mentorKeith Barrow7 May '13 - 0:42 
I call Butlins[^]
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“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”


Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberNeverJustHere6 May '13 - 23:19 
Gee, If this can happen after such a long time, I feel sorry for those who have worked at Guantanamo Bay. They are going to wake each morning and wonder if today is the day there will be a tap on the shoulder.
GeneralRe: I do not wish to cause offence, but...memberRichard Andrew x647 May '13 - 2:48 
There is hardly any comparison.

 

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