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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
As far as I've observed, the lesser technically precise ones prefer calls.
Where they can bluff around randomly about things and go unnoticed. They fear chat as things have to be concise and precise and it's easily copied and circulated around.
Many times while explaining the requirement over call, I see no meaning in it. The explainer gets a free ride wasting time and finally says , "I think there's some missing blocks". (APPARENTLY!) Okay we'd revisit this again tomorrow.
This has been happening for a very long time. as so-called "Requirement discussion"
Now , I had to force one session towards Slack instead of phone call. Guess what? it was taking so much time for him to type a single meaningful statement. Please note he usually types faster while chatting about non-work topics. I just hate random calls.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
I prefer a call - where information can be transferred far faster and less painfully.
Similarly, I don't like waiting around for my turn amongst all the other conversations the chat-help drone is trying to handle along with mine.
It's an inch-by-inch affair, and from my experience, the busier they are (as measured by delays) the more the information they request is in small bits so they can give you smaller time-slices.
Or, perhaps you'd prefer to tweet, cutting down on the chatter?
I hate calls most of the time. They yank me out of whatever I'm working on, take way too long, and have a terrible signal-to-noise ratio. I'd say for every minute on the phone, I get about 5-10 seconds worth of useful information.
E-mails or other forms of text are much better... They don't interrupt my flow state, they can be glanced at and ignored if they're not useful, and any unhelpful bits can be quickly skimmed over.
Granted, there are exceptions on both sides... Some calls are useful, and some-- most e-mails are spam.
I'd have to say most of the time I prefer a phone call provided I'm talking to the right person (non-technical people need not be there), and the subject is kept on point. Occasionally I have to get, what some may consider rude, when the conversation gets off topic, but I think we can gauge each others' understanding of the topic quicker than with emails. Ambiguities can be dealt with faster with simple questions.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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I went for an interview yesterday and managed to get a copy of my CV that was sent. It was litterally a badly chopped down version of my CV, for instance it looked like I had one GCSE in Chemistry, everything of interest including my experience with Altera tool chain was taken off. If you look at that CV I can start to think the Arts Grads take any term they are not familiar with out leaving not very much. The roles I have applied to that I though thats me and I heard nothing from could be due to the creative edits made...
This is common practice and you right; the good agents know what to keep, the bad ones just guess. Note: no one cares that you have GCSEs - it's detail that is not relevant to the job. A degree is fine to note and any pro certificates that are current. Just my tuppence worth.
What got me was all the Texas Instruments courses I have done, gone! I showed them my actual CV far more interest 'oh you have used Altera tool chain!'... I have taken some advise from your article but if they edit before it gets sent what use is there!
This is bad. They cannot change your CV without your permission.
Because what is written in there is subject to verification from receives it.
And if something is found to be untrue, you won't be trusted ever again in that company. And, if you are applying for a public role, you may be charged by the court.
How would you then be able to prove that the CV was modified by the recruiter?
They cannot change your CV without your permission.
It will be in their T&Cs. Recruiters always amend your CV, it's basic industry practice. They like to present them in the same general format and they'll use their "expertise" to cut out things they don't think are relevant to the job in order to make it concise.
Your post was as if they were adding things and making things up, which they weren't, they were cutting it down which is something they all do.
If a recruiter does this badly or to your detriment, then they don't get the business. The ones that do it well do get the business. It's survival of the fittest.
All the recruiters I met, they always asked me to "modify" my CV in order to underline certain competences rather then others.
Or, moving "down" aspects of my background which would not really fit the role i was applying for.
I'm not sure if there is a law against this, but there certainly should be.
I've had my share of bad recruiters and I try to avoid them as much as possible.
Half of them don't even read it, some dig up an old version despite you sent them the latest and though I never saw it, I'm pretty sure in some occasions they changed mine before sending as well.
In addition you repeatedly receive mails for inappropriate job offers.
Not once have I had the feeling they were an added value to the recruiting process.
I mean, becasue of there hiding of information I have been submitted to one company I wont work for due to the fact they were rude to me during a phone interview and accused me of wasting there time after tearing my CV apart. They complain about getting my CV 4 times from different sources, due to the fact the agencies wont tell me who the client is!
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