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I know what you mean. I had a complete set of the documentation for Visual C++ version 1 (incl. MFC)
It took about two feet of shelf space, weighed a ton, and I hadn't opened it in ten years.
Couldn't sell it, even on eBay (thanks to the shipping costs, books aren't easy to shift on eBay). Couldn't give it away. So the lot went to the tip.
Sad. But necessary. Bite the bullet! Fill the car while drunk and cover them with a blanket so you can't see them when sober. Then drive to the tip and do it...
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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Same here. It has become a small library for itself, with a two rows of books specialized on computer graphics. My best excuse for keeping them is that I also still have all the old computers.
With the computers I have the same problem. I never was much of a collector. Most old computers are the ones I used myself long ago. When I had to move, I had to get rid of my old Pentium II and Pentium III machines, both still working perfectly.
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I clear mine out if I've not opened them in a couple of years. Me and the missus durr'n like clutter. I don't know how much money I've wasted on books I never opened keeping up with changes in development I'll never work on.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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I share your attitude to books and have lain awake feeling guilty after throwing one or two in the bin, including Programming Windows 3.1. Have you tried local schools, adult education groups, charities etc?
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Not to sound like a hippie, but if you're going to throw them away, at least dump them in the paper bin at your local recycling center.
My solution to your problem is I don't buy computer books any longer unless absolutely necessary. The last time that was true was in 2008, when we were starting a new generation of our current product from scratch. I was using C# and WPF for the first time. I bought 2 books at the time based on recommendations from CP folks. I still use both of them occasionally. Recently when I did a project in Linux, and started another in ASP.NET, I was tempted but didn't end up needing books. There's just too much technical material available online for dead tree sources to be worthwhile.
Fiction, on the other hand, is another container of expired piscium. Even though I've ruthlessly culled my book collection over the years, I still have an attic full of boxes of books. My 'active' bookshelf is about half new stuff I've bought to read, and half old stuff I've pulled out of the boxes that I want to read again. I have a 'crap' shelf of stuff to sell at the used bookstore or donate that I know I won't ever read again. You'd think in a 2500 square foot old house full of shelves, there'd be space. Unfortunately my wife is an even worse book hoarder than I am.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I worked for a scientific company and as more and more journals became available online we came to the conclusion that the hard copies were essentially redundant and the many hundreds of feet of shelf space that they occupied could be used for something else. At phase 1 of the library clearout complete sets of bound journals dating from the 1930's or earlier, were chucked into a skips. Yes that's right, more than one skip was needed.
At phase two, some years after that, the library was reduced down to little more than the information scientist's office and all the rest was partitioned off to be converted into conference rooms and offices.
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Roger Wright wrote: But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again
That isn't necessarily true.
I have had at least one maintenance request where the object code was something like 5 major versions behind. And at least in the case there was no way to use current documentation to figure language API usage.
Additionally some books can be used as differentials in discussions. For example when did a specific feature show up?
Of course keeping them does require space.
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I have a room with an entire wall of floor to ceiling books. Most of them older than 3 years (by definition, obsolete in the computer science world)... but I still consult them for details and mine some of the obsolete platform code for algorithms that are still useful.
My feeling is that documentation (including but not limited to books) is like sex ... even if it is terrible it is still better than nothing at all.
--
Harvey
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They might make good kindling, good insulation, bedding for chickens or other animals, wall paper, paper mache, targets for your new rifle, pads for dogs to pee on.
I guess you can check with your local animal shelter? Last time I checked, newpapers were in abundance.
Do you guys recycle out there? My old college text books that are severely outdated are donated to Salvation Army, I let them deal with it.
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wizardzz wrote: They might make good kindling, good insulation, bedding for chickens or other animals, wall paper, paper mache, targets for your new rifle, pads for dogs to pee on.
Not to mention emergency toilet tissue... Microsoft Press books are particularly soft.
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Wait a minute; didn't you just buy a new rifle? 
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Yup. I wonder how many computer books a .243 can pierce? I have just discovered (in a box in the closet) the complete manuals for
Turbo Pascal 5.5
Turbo Assembler
Turbo Debugger
Turbo Prolog 2.0
Paradox 4.0
Altogether, that's about 3' of high quality documentation, which should be a challenge for any caliber. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Aye, it was sad day I threw out my Turbo Pascal manuals (and discs), but it had to be done.
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Alas, there was no room in the box for the complete Quattro manuals, but I found space for ProComm+ along with the disks!
Sadly, yes, there does come a time when it becomes necessary to toss out the old, even if the old was better than the new. For solid functionality, reliability, readability, maintainability, and cost effectiveness, nothing offered in the .Net universe comes close to Turbo Pascal.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I never used Quattro, but I got a copy somewhere and was unable to sell it. That and VB 2 & 3 -- couldn't give them away.
ProComm+ you say? Hmmm... I haven't used that since 2005 or so when I wrote my own scripting language. I don't know whether or not I have a copy any more.
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Roger Wright wrote: I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out
Me too. 
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I have to admit that I wasn't able to get drunk enough to do the deed this weekend; the doomed are stacked on the porch, awaiting a colossal bender to meet their final destination... 
Will Rogers never met me.
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It is definitely our age. These days people Google (or google equivalnt) for information.
Who needs books these days? 
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Keep the books with general knowledge in them, for example mathematics (how to do Hamiltonian Quadruple, Laplace transformations whatever...), computer science (architectonial secrets of operating systems now forgotten) and so on.
Thy rule should be: He who forgets the past is bound to repeat it...
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Recycle. I did it with no less than 100 tech books. But there was one I wish I had kept, so be careful!!! Cheers.
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I have a slightly used copy of Stimulating Simulations for the VIC 20, if any one is interested.
I imagine a bidding war starting now...
"I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand."
- Douglas Adams
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They might be serving well as toilet paper. 
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too expensive to ship?
Did you know there is a media rate for books that is downright affordable?
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Easy, put them in the trunk and drive straight to Mexico, then go to any public high school and tell them that you want to donate all the books you have in your car, they may take them gratefully.
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