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So, my wife wants to go on this diet where, for $1500, they inject you with hormones and put you on a starvation diet. She went to a session and brought home a DVD.
Here[^] are the negative reviews of this DVD on Amazon, about what I was expecting. I HATE quack medicine and ignorance. My daughter is involved, and I don't want her buying in to this rubbish, but if I try to comment, I am called 'cynical'. What do I do ?
Christian Graus
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For $1500 why can't she join a gym, or a dietary program that just restricts your caloric intake (no injections) while providing meals, like Jenny Craig? They wouldn't pay fat celebrities millions to endorse it if it didn't work, right?
Sh*t, at my gym $1500 will get you 30 hours of personal training sessions.
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ROTFL - yeah, good luck with that. I recently sold the walking machine. Like new, after three years.
Christian Graus
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My comedy friend is restricting his caloric intake to 1700 calories a day to lose weight, and it's working he says (though, I just now got a weird e-mail about how he thinks he's is starving).
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funny thing, I lost all that weight without ever being hungry. My appetite started to work properly when I stopped drowning it in sugar.
Christian Graus
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+5 
IMHO it's a matter of dropping a bad habit. It's easy to use food as a reward mechanism - I'm guilty of it myself. A la "I worked so hard at the office today, I deserve to treat myself to a large pizza followed by chocolate icecream." Rubbish. I deserve to eat right and go for a walk instead of sitting at my desk for 12 hours.
If I were you, I'd try to make her see that she's seeking an "easy" way out when there isn't any. Ruthless marketing, but worse, at the expense of her health. Emphatic request to listen to reason.
/ravi
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Yeah, I am inclined to watch the DVD with her, and try to point out logically that doctors don't WANT people to stay sick, and that vitamin C plainly cannot cure cancer. If it did, doctors would prescribe it.
Christian Graus
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I don't know what he eats. He works in film, so almost all his meals are on the run. I know he generally is trying to eat healthier, not just restricting calories (makes you feel more full with the limited caloric intake).
I've tried to get him to go to the gym with me, but his schedule is just wacky.
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A few years ago, my wife wanted to get the Bio Shaker. We bought it for about $500 and she did use it consistently for a while, but there were no noticeable difference at all. Now it sits in a corner preventing the house from flying away.
Later on we set my wife up with a personal trainer. I was impressed with the way she stuck to the training regiment. She did change the trainer out once or twice, but in the end she got great results.
It really comes down to the individual person and finding out exactly what approach will keep them focused long enough to see results.
Soren Madsen
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Trainers are expensive, brutal, and effective.
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well before you go down that route
take a look at myfitnesspal.com[^]
its really very good.
Has she tried the weight watchers program?
But yes, shes trying the quick fix - which in the long term is unlikely to work because you need a change in overall behaviour.
cheers
Bryce
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I got dragged to WW, what a waste of time. Yes, she has been. I stopped eating sugar and dropped 18 kg in 2 months, and have kept it off for 6. So, my views are very different to all these high priced options.
Christian Graus
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yeah but theres the thing = women need to be part of a group - (get this) they work (mentally) different to us sane bloke types.
Also women who announce their intentions/plans to their peers also are more likely to achieve them
perhaps some more gentle discussion might be the go?
Bryce
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bryce wrote: (get this) they work (mentally) different to us sane bloke types
  Where are these 'sane' bloke types? Tell me, tell me now! 
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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Yes, I see stories in women's magazines about 'amazing weight loss' and I typically lost similar amounts or more. I just found I was full with less, when I cut out sugar.
Christian Graus
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Christian Graus wrote: I see stories in women's magazines
I was listening to you right up until that point.
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Well, I don't read them, I see the posters in newsagents.
Christian Graus
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to the weight watchers program. I know several people who have followed and continue to use it successfully today. 
Chris Meech
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Christian Graus wrote: 'cynical'.
To which you say "damn right" while pointing to the pile of quick fix diet books that also didn't work, or ask her to provide credible medical evidence that it is safe and effective. My guess is that you're more likely to win the lottery then find that evidence.
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jeron1 wrote: My guess is that you're more likely to win the lottery then find that evidence.
Agreed. And that is the issue.
Cynical is not the same as 'assumes this fad diet will be like all the others and that there's no evidence because it doesn't work'
Christian Graus
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You make it sound easy. 2 females 1 male. That's the nub of the dilemna.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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Loosing weight is difficult.
Have her meet a _real_ nutritionist and dietician (and a psychotherapist if needed).
They will offer better suggestions and ways to change her diet without having to starvation and hormones; and most importantly they will help her not feel bad about herself.
Nihil obstat
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Sister In Law has same issue - impossible to argue with her.
Latest was a stomach staple thing - which she keeps going to get loosened !!!!!
If you are overweight, then the only way to lose weight is some combination of diet and exercise.
By diet I mean 'consume less calories' and by exercise I mean anything helps!
And (usually) it is going to take time - so just live with that - if she sets a target weight for next xmas, for example it may be easier for her than the 'get slim quick' idea which, frankly, rarely works.
If she isn't working, I would suggest she joins the gym, goes every day for some sort of class, and cuts out as much fat and sugar as she can from her diet. It'll cost < $1500 for sure.
But if she's anything like my SIL you're fighting a losing battle (SIL goes for a walk along the sea front every Sunday for exercise with a friend. At the end of the walk they stop off at a cafe and have coffee and cakes. Better than not doing the walk, but pointless as a weight loss exercise!)
.\\axxx
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what i think you really need to do is to tell her you're posting about her problems on codeproject for literally thousands of nerds around the world to see
and that you've had the brilliant idea of asking said geeks for solutions.
I confidently predict that once you've told her this that you'll find the weight loss issue will have moved rapidly down the list of things you need to worry about
Bryce
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I thought it was considered impressive to drop 1.5 lbs a week. You somehow managed 5 lbs a week. 