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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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Hi All,
I posted earlier about the ping ching on one of my PC's. I think somethings up, the PC's Device mangler resets it's view of the extended tabs. It seems that something is causing a change. In the past it was a faulty USB port cauisng the device to power up when it negoatiated for more power the port would 'fall off' the system. I can't think I have damaged any USB ports (was caused by a collapsing shelf), plus if I open the USB tab all there all good. No camera Megadamm! Could it be caused by the network dropping!.. I'll have a look, Well I'll be there was a USB Wi-Fi adaptor. Issues with the phone line... Well thats stopped!
Glenn
modified 13-Jun-23 17:26pm.
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#Worldle #508 2/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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I'm in the process of moving some code in between Javascript, .NET Core 5, .NET 7 with detours around Razor and Blazor. The code changes between them are doing my head in. Just reading a file from the browser seems to have 6 different ways, all subtly different, all similarly named.
I understand that changes in underlying architecture means that one method won't necessarily translate to another, but surely there are some core things that we, as an industry, could standardise. For example:
You have an object, for instance a file. Or a tensor. Or a string.
- any time you get data from a source (uploaded file, network stream, from database) you call it "Get"
- any time you save data to storage you call it "Save"
- any time you need to append data, you call Append, and also override the + operator.
The thing that's getting me is I just want to save an uploaded file. A quick check shows I can
- Call file.SaveAs to save the file
- Open a filestream, call file.CopyToAsync to the stream and close the stream
- Read the file's InputStream into a buffer and call File.WriteAllBytes to save the buffer
- Same as 2, but using CopyTo instead of CopyToAsync
I'm sure there are more. I just want to save the file to disk.
So I'm wondering, since I've not actually taken the time to read up on this, if this happens because
- We're scared to break backwards compatibility so we create new methods to avoid breaking old methods, and overloading functions doesn't always work is or possible
- There are too many ways to do a given task so we present you a bag of parts (eg streams and buffers) and let you mix and match because there's no single "default" way that's practical to provide
- Program flow has changed sufficiently (eg async and promises) that there truly needs to be different methods to cater for this
- We just like making up new paths for writing the same old code because they suited our headspace at the time
It seems a massive waste of cycles. I think we as an industry need a big refactoring.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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From my perspective:
There is no other profession, that I personally know of, where there is a pool of vastly differing opinions on how to do things and how things should be, than software development and developers. We have standardized music, medical, and most science fields, but software engineering/development is lacking big time.
So, I agree with you that we as an industry should standardize as much as we can (not just APIs), but then who gets to be the king on what the standards are? You? Me? Jeff down the street?
What if I don't like your standards?
back to square one. IMHO, this is an exercise in futility.
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I guess I misread some of that post then. Coming from the web side, we do have standards in naming conventions. We just didn't invite Jeff to the meeting. 
Jeremy Falcon
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That's the beauty of Standards: there are so many to choose from.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Slacker007 wrote: We have standardized music, medical, and most science fields, but software engineering/development is lacking big time
No. Humans are messy.
You do know that Ed Sheeran just won a civil case for copyright infringement based on, presumably, one of those 'standards' of the music industry? So certainly not settled for some.
You do know that there are license medical doctors that are prescribing CAM (Complementary Alternative Medicine) medicine? You know that every cancer hospital except for one has a CAM center? You do know that people were comparing the way the Mumps vaccine was originally researched and even what it does to how COVID mRNA (and all mRNA) vaccine was researched? It took 30 years for Texas to finally remove the license of a medical doctor who has been prompting and profiting from a medical therapy that was disproved almost at the very time it was first proposed? Not to mention what happened with Aducanumab?
Not sure what you mean by "science" but in India you can get a MBA in Astrology (yes spelled correctly) at most or perhaps all universities? I think one offers a Masters of Science as well.
Of course in the US 'talk therapy' is still offered by psychologists and even psychiatrists. Not to mention a slew of things like court order anger management.
And the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) is for the most part full of definitions that are nothing more that descriptions of how people describe that the 'feel'. Thus no actual objective criteria. The most recent release was disputed by at least some due to it continuing to do that and even expanding on those sorts of definitions.
The number of pay per publish 'science' publications are probably expanding. And it seems to be a trend to now realize that the standard for looking for errors which can lead to false positives in studies is finally (like in the last couple of years) is being revised to be more strict. This came about because of a large effort to try to reproduce results for studies in reputable (not pay per publish) magazines which fail to reproduce the results of the original study?
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- SaveAs implies a possible conversion.
- Async is needed for UI reponsiveness and multi-threading.
- Buffering implies intermediate processing of the input stream
- Async not needed or not understood.
People become more unhappy as the number of options increases. The simpler one's existence, the happier one is.
I guess "AI" will make people happier by choosing for them.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I'm sure you've never seen this "obligatory XKCD"[^] before. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Quote: Should libraries have a standard API and naming convention?
We absolutely need a single standard! Microsoft's standard, Google's standard, Apple's standard, Facebook's standard.
Or if you prefer, 2023 standards, 2024 standards, 2025 standards.... 
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We'll call it MGAF. After a few iterations it can be renamed to MacGyver. Then we'll have come full circle.
Jeremy Falcon
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Because we don't have a good widely accepted book on naming conventions. The reasons are software engendering is relatively new and shockingly fluid trade. I'm pretty sure the first tribe healers had many different words for constipation back then; in the stone age.
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It has really only been 80 years or so. I'm sure we'll get there... 
cheers
Chris Maunder
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