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I interviewed a guy for web development role.
Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?"
THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility"
Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me?
He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? 
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Well, you know what a shortage of web developers there are . . .
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Nand32 wrote: THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility"
I think I interviewed this Candidate's brother one time.
We asked him, "What are you looking for in your career here as a software dev?"
Candidate: "Something local. Pays good and good hours."
I was like, "Hey, I can't be bothered to hire someone who can't even take the time and energy to at least lie during the interview." 
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raddevus wrote: "Something local. Pays good and good hours."
I heard the below several years back.
Candidate : "I know people are now using MVC/MVVM. But I would like to do WinForms & WebForms with DataAdaptors & simpler application, mainly like "Maintenance types" "
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Taking the "don't be overqualified" tip a little too far
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I could've said that.
If I come somewhere and it's not obvious where I can park I will ask about it.
Going to work every day and not knowing if or where you can park can really be a source of daily stress.
I worked somewhere in the city that required me to park in a parking garage.
The nearest garage was €36 a day, so it could really add to your monthly costs as well.
Since I was a contractor they didn't pay for my parking costs.
I always parked at another garage, a 10 minute walk away, which was €12 a day (and added 20 minutes commute a day!).
If my regular garage was closed or full, which happened a few time, I had to search for another garage which could add over 15 minutes to my commute and searching for a garage in a busy city is stressful enough as it is.
For their own employees they had parking subscriptions or public transport subscriptions (they were near, and later, on, Utrecht Central).
Public transport wasn't an option for me as it would make my commute six hours a day 
I had a coworker at another customer who had over €500 a month on parking costs alone (but his employer paid for it).
So yeah, parking is important.
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oops, that really matters.
If The Candidate could do well in the interview, We would even let him come in a caravan. 
But he didn't do well, unfortunately.
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Nand32 wrote: We would even let him come in a caravan
That sounds interesting, when can I start!?
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Nand32 wrote: You are over qualified for the job.
This must be the function of office idiot then 
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Sander Rossel wrote: This must be the function of office idiot then
That's in between you & the office idiot
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Where does this caravan stand? Is it a long walk to the office? Or should I work from the caravan due to lockdown-rules? Can I move the caravan?
..and most important, does the caravan have an office-grade coffee-machine?
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Yeah everything is there. But please don't ask for a Parking facility inside the caravan. That's a bit difficult.
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Isn't the bike a preferred method of transport in your neck o' the wood...
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Yes, for many
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It depends on the situation. Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happens. But I know of places where the developers were working overtime all the time and then you get burnt out. As for the parking, it also depends, maybe his current job is in an area that isn't safe, so then safe parking is a perk to have.
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bit OT but what exactly is overtime/extra hours in dev?
one reason I went solo is "office hours" were wasted on meetings (blaming and passing the buck) and replying to executive idiots in person or by email why they were idiots.
... It was only after the "office hour" idiots went home I could actually get work done.
for that reason even though working late I'd still stay up even longer getting own stuff (and show watching) out, arriving at work next day still tired didn't matter: the hours of [snoozing in] meetings and politics didn't take much energy - just way too much time; by the time I could get to work I'd back in the fully alert zone.
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Two very good reasons in my opinion.
Extra hours? Not unless it's reciprocated with extra pay or extra time off. If the work is interesting, they'll often get some extra hours for free anyway. But it shouldn't be expected.
Parking? What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? If the execs take the bus, maybe the topic is open for discussion. Otherwise, pass.
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Greg Utas wrote: What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable?
Every company that locates in a city where potential employees are abundant? 
A friend of mine worked for a company with six parking lots for 200 people, of which two were reserved for the bosses and two for visitors
People either took their bike, public transport (which stopped in front of the office) or parked their car outside the city and took the subway.
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Most cities have office space outside the core. Unless there's a good reason to be located there (a law firm that needs to be close to a courthouse, say), paying for downtown office space is frivolous.
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The center in Rotterdam has quite a few businesses and they are there because it is reachable.
If you're from the city, you can take public transport and always end up in the center relatively cheap and fast, at least cheaper and faster than taking a car.
Of course you could always take a bike and be there in 10 to 40 minutes, depending on where in Rotterdam you live, or even faster with an electric bike.
If you're from another city, like Amsterdam, Utrecht or The Hague, you also don't want to go to Rotterdam by car because you'll be hopelessly stuck in traffic and you'll still have to drive through your own city.
Many people who live in cities don't even own a car because parking can be expensive.
Public transport, on the other hand, goes straight to Rotterdam central.
I'm taking Rotterdam as an example, but the same applies to Amsterdam, Utrecht and The Hague.
If you're from any of the other cities in Randstad (the area that's roughly between those four cities) you might seriously want to consider taking public transport as well unless you don't mind being in traffic for over an hour.
I live just outside the Randstad area and my only option is to take the bus, which would take me an hour to get to Rotterdam.
It's doable for Rotterdam, but not so much if I have to go to any of the other cities.
That said, it's been years since I've taken the bus.
I only use public transport when I'm already in a city.
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Where I am working at is located in a downtown and the company employs 25,00K people. There's not parking for everyone, and the company hasn't built enough lots or parking garages to handle everyone.
Only employees above a certain grade get assigned parking; below that they get a tag let's them park in the associate tag's lot.
Before becoming an employee I was a contractor. Contractors did not even get a tag. Often had to drive around for 1/2 hour to find parking.
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>What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable?
In the Seattle area: Microsoft, Amazon, GoDaddy, etc. Everyone continues to build new office space in already crowded, high rent areas. Nearby real estate prices are ridiculous and commuting to those locations requires an excessive amount of time. Double that time if you want to use mass transit.
Why don't they put satellite offices in the less crowded, lower rent, nearby cities that would LOVE to have them? I guess the AI hasn't pointed that out...
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In my world....
A professional has tasks and deadlines. They need to either get it done on time or get an extension. I think this is called productivity. The more productive you are, the more salary increase you get.
As for parking... we have a Be Active incentive which covers a portion of our health care premiums. I meet the requirements for this by walking to and from my parking spot (1 km round trip)
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