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well, no one is against you here. they are giving the right advice. honestly, i think u are being treated like what you deserve to be treated like. 
indian143 wrote: wanna to be a professional
If u want to be a professional, then act according to their advice. Almost all the people who are giving the advice to you are professionals and their advice is strongly backed by their experiences.
Try learning from other's experience. It will always help you.
vijay.
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Thanks Vijay, I said it because its a lounge. Yeah I am serious about their advice because they way Pete and Christ helped me, I cant forget. But just for fun I said. If they take it serious, one again I will say Sooooooorrrrrrry.................... Ok?. Thank you.
Aleem.
S/W Engineer
Akebono Soft Technologies
aleem_abdul@akebonosoft.com.
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indian143 wrote: Yeah I am serious about their advice
yes, you should be and i hope u are.
vijay.
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Vijji, whats this 7173. May be you want to take birth again in that year. Am I right?
You are from Which part of India.
My coices 1. Hyderabad 2. Chennai 3. Bangalore. if not from these May be from hell(the place where Yamah lives).
S/W Engineer
Akebono Soft Technologies
aleem_abdul@akebonosoft.com.
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Suddenly every second submission I'm seeing is packed full of RAR nastiness. Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo? Or is there a university somewhere preaching zip bad, rar good?
It's just weird.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Has someone, somewhere decided that WinRAR is way, way cooler than Winzip and I didn't get the memo?
Yes.
Just out of curiousity, did these submissions also exhibit a... creative approach to grammar, and look as though punctuation had been added afterwards, while the author was busy practicing his pogo-sticking? 
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You're right. I should have spotted that.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Amen! A few informal polls here found the story of Rarism is a story of denial and crazed-eye-preaching.
WinZip has the better "use experience", and - as someone posted here recently - 7zip has the way better compression. WinZips recent desire for mo'money has hurt a quasi-standardness, but those Raristas have been lurking in the dark all the time. At work it's mostly asian customers It seems a distributor even repackages zip files we send as rar before they go further. It's just weird.
Hint: WinZip 10 supports extracting RAR. Which makes it worth the money, 'cause you can spend the money on not WinRAR.
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I hate the WinRar interface. 
Besides, Rar is not as ubiquitous as Zip.
Cheers,
Vikram.
"...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: I hate the WinRar interface.
I liked it until it started asking me for money all the time...
Then I got 7Zip.
Now that I'm using linux most of the time, I just use the commandline versions (rar -x... etc) or Ark/File Roller or something.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: Besides, Rar is not as ubiquitous as Zip.
Well, at one time black and white TVs were more ubiquitous than colour TVs.
Aren't you glad that didn't stop colour TV?
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destynova wrote: Well, at one time black and white TVs were more ubiquitous than colour TVs.
Aren't you glad that didn't stop colour TV?
That is ridiculous. Having a color TV when most of your neighbors have B&W TVs doesn't mean you can't watch their TV once in a while or the other way round.
On the other hand, if somebody sends a RAR file, the receiver *has* to have WinRAR#; which is not the case with Zip files.
# Or a compatible program, of course.
On a lighter note, I don't watch TV. 
Cheers,
Vikram.
"...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.
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You kiddin'? When it comes to UI, WinZip is an absolute dog of an application. If I didn't have WinRAR or 7ZFM on my system, I'd do all my zipping and unzipping at the command prompt (seriously, I have and I would again).
As for the ubiquity of RAR, WinZip even supports opening RAR files now, and 7ZFM has for as long as I've had it.
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In all my recent XP installs, I've stopped installing WinZip, since the builtin ZIP-support of XP is enough as I see it. Oh, and I hate RAR.
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Johann Gerell wrote: In all my recent XP installs, I've stopped installing WinZip, since the builtin ZIP-support of XP is enough as I see it.
You expectations are very low!
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How many times have you hit extract twice? its just rubbish
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adudley256 wrote: How many times have you hit extract twice?
Not once. Never.
adudley256 wrote: its just rubbish
Nope, it's good enough[^]
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I have to agree with the other "never" response. I have unziped thousands of files using the built in zip and never once had to do it a second time. It is about as idiot proof as it gets. Granted there are features missing if you want to pack something up for distribution but that is not what it was meant for.
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Maybe I come under fool, or idiot, however, it would seem they have fixed it now, I've just tried it again on a large file. In the past it would leave the ‘Next’ button enabled while it was unzipping, leaving the (very impatient) me to click it again (thinking it hadn’t understood my ever so simple request).
Anyway, I use Izarc now http://www.izarc.org/ , and it does RAR and ZIP and its free.
So, does anybody else use IZarc? At one point I heard it had spyware in it, but it all seems fine.
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I've been using IZarc for a couple of years now, though I only use it when WinZip can't accomplish whatever I need. If .7z and .rar files really do take over, though, I can see I'm going to be using it much more.
I also noticed just lately that IZarc's UI actually shows folders, where my old WinZip 9 doesn't. I'll bet I'm far from the only one who has ignored all the WinZip upgrade notices, since IZarc is free and there's nothing in WinZip 10+ that I'm willing to pay money for.
-- modified at 1:21 Friday 2nd February, 2007
(Grr... staying up too late trying to get my laptop's wireless to work in Edgy results in annoying little typos.  )
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I have been using the built in zip support since I upgraded to XP. The functionallity it provides suits my needs. About all I ever need to do with a zip file is extract its contents. Rarely do I need to do anything more.
jgehman
Software Engineer
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(Kenpo) Randy Jones wrote: I have unziped thousands of files using the built in zip and never once had to do it a second time. It is about as idiot proof as it gets.
But compared to any other expander software its extremely slow, try unpack a 700Mb zip
for example, on my machine with winzip it takes a couple of seconds, but with Windows Explorer it can take between 15 och 30 minutes to do the same.
As for the original question, it seems Rar is somewhat more resilient against bit errors
in transfer or storage and also have better tools to extract what was usable from a damaged archive. At least it was so a couple of years ago.
Well that's my 5c
Ulf Rosvall
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I'm with you. We have to ship software updates around to all our customers and use the buit-in ZIP support in XP and 2003 Server. It mightn't be the best but the last thing we want is to have to install and support another piece of software and much less, pay for one, at every site. We're talkin' users here, not geeks.
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I stopped using the XP zip "feature" as it was extremely slow and unnecessarily bloats the compressed files. You should try 7Zip, it has excellent compression ratios and is VERY quick, but above all, it supports almost every compression type.
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Im Currently using Power Archiver and im having no problems, it has a nice UI and it can unzip almost anything, the only thing i found that it cant unzip is 7zip files
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Rar has always been way way cooler than zip. Better compression, solid archives, better spanning, zip just isn't in the same league. I never ever understood why zip files beat out both Rar and Arj archives.
Winzip was the massive nail in the coffin for me. Horrid user interface, block whenever you click on a window to move it. Blechy!
Rar Rar,
Hes our man!
If he can't do it,
No one ... will.
- Phil
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