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And that's a bad thing? Judging by what we saw in the media, her "real" life musta been a freakin train wreck...
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I'm not one to pick on the departed normally, and it's unfortunate that she's dead. On the other hand, as she was one of those young bimbo's that married an old guy for his money, I'm not too concerned either.
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Although tech recruiting companies have been my life blood for over a decade, it continually amazes me how many of these folks are just plain clueless in how they approach programmers. Here's some of my favorites.
- My resume & job postings say I won't relocate. I continually get job queries for out of town.
- Poor communication skills. If you can't correspond in a professional manner, how professionally are you going to represent me?
- Mismatched tech skills. Exactly where on my resume do you see the words Java / UNIX / Oracle? So why are you asking me about such a position?
- Punctuality. If you wait three days to return a phone call or email, how do I know that my paychecks won't arrive in a similar haphazard manner?
These are just a few of my favorites. I could go on, but I don't want to hog the platform.  What are your favorite Clueless Recruiter attributes?
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Point 2 which you raised is the second best one ever. I get tons of job offers in my email, and most are Java.
But, my favourite would be cluelessness to the point of 'do you have 5 years of WPF and 10 years of C#' ???
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Christian Graus wrote: I get tons of job offers in my email, and most are Java.
i get tons of job offers by email, too. most of them are for unspecified work i can do at home.
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Chris Losinger wrote:
i get tons of job offers by email, too. most of them are for unspecified work i can do at home.
Let me guess - potentially UNLIMITED opportunities?
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Christian Graus wrote: But, my favourite would be cluelessness to the point of 'do you have 5 years of WPF and 10 years of C#' ???
Yep. Once I had an interview (two years ago) where this HR girl was looking for a C# programmer with 10 years of experience. I couldn't help it and just laughed at the poor clueless girl. When she asked me why, I replied the obvious. She was really ashamed, and told me that by polithics of the enterprise, they always ask for 10 years of experience.
Of course, I didn't get the job because after that, they changed the requirements and were looking for a Java programmer. They offered me the possition though, but you know, I'd rather live in the Antarctica than program in Java. I started to date her though .
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Christian Graus wrote: and 10 years of C#' ???
Yeah, back in 2002 (through 2004) I was looking for work (after fifteen years of C on OpenVMS), but the C# ads all said they wanted a minimum of two years professional experience. Well, gee, I had read the first spec of C# in 1999, shouldn't that count for something?
* The only work available on OpenVMS at the time was in COBOL!
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My resume says, "NO ASP.NET" and you would be amazed at how many calls I get were the recruiter swears up and down it isn't ASP.Net but C# doing web forms *rolls eyes*
On a side note, I was looking for your name the other day. I did my annual book purchase and knew I wanted someone from CP's book. I didn't find your name and I have a poor memory for such things so I'll have to wait longer.
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Do you make a lot of money from your books? I asked a prof once and he said after publishing costs and the universitys cut he made barely enough to make it worth while.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: Do you make a lot of money from your books?
How many red Corvette owners do you know who don't make a lot of money? 
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Well yeah but that could be independent of the books. Yall should let me know if your ever looking for a co-author with a huge ego, pompous attitude, and a juvenile sense of humour.
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I am straight out of college, and currently 6 months into my career. I kept getting calls from recruiters asking if I've had 5 years experience with this, 3 years with that. On my resume it clearly said graduating May 06 current GPA ___ final GPA to be determined. They would ask what Ive been doing since graduating. Even call to talk to me about jobs not even related to my field of study. I think most of this can be blamed on Monster and Careerbuilder. Its still extremely frustrating trying to get your first job, and 70% of the calls from recruiters didnt even apply to me. I finally found a want ad in a local newspaper that was looking for a fresh out of college Computer Engineer graduate, and thats where im currently working...
I win because I have the most fun in life...
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My moment of truth as to how useful recruiters were (from a Trivandrum context) was when my main contact with an agency sent me a job offer for the very same position (network admin) I had sought their help to fill. Apparently she mailed this out to the wrong mailing list, but it was a little bit of a shock to see the very same job description I had painstakingly written up (trying to make it sound spiffy and attractive) in my inbox the next day. I replied to her sarcastically asking her if she'd help me set up an interview date with myself. She phoned up and apologized and I did give her a second chance, but eventually that specific agency didn't prove too fruitful.
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Isn't that tautology.
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I've had my fair share of them. Some of the "offers" I even show to my manager to spread the humour.
The best one I had is one Company in the Texas, USA wanted to hire me for a lead developer. I told the Recruiter my wife and I did not want to relocate to the states. HOwever, if the company wanted to relocate to Kamloops, BC I would consider it.
The recruiter told me he'd get back in touch. (I couldn't believe he said that after I told him what I already did).
I get a phone call back a few days later from the same recruiter, he told me the company didn't have any plans to relocate to Kamloops. Would I still be interested in moving to Texas? Again, I told him I'd only consider it if they moved their entire company to Kamloops....
Again he told me he'd get back in touch with me.
A few weeks later I got another call from him saying they declined the offer for me to purchase their company and move it to Kamloops...
I was scared... I thought I was in the Twilight zone...
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MrBic wrote: Again he told me he'd get back in touch with me.
As if the first time wasn't enough.
MrBic wrote: A few weeks later I got another call from him saying they declined the offer for me to purchase their company and move it to Kamloops...
ROFL! What the hell was he telling them?
That's my beef with recruiters, you don't know what is actually happening in discussions. My last experience I was pushing for three weeks vacation to start. I'm not sure that they ever truly asked for it though.
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