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The telerik thing was all I could find, and they had a bunch of caveats regarding running it on a .net 3.5 box. Not very professional for a .net controls place...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Yeah, I've also been looking for something viable that doesn't have strings attached...been using Joomla a lot...it's not bad...wish there was a .Net version though 
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Have a look upon Telerik's Sitefinity[^]. Community version is also available.
-muneeb
A thing of beauty is the joy forever.
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Again, it's got a retail/lite distribution model, like DNN - a point the OP is complaining about.
Besides that, SiteFinity (late last year) had some caveats where DotNet 3.x were concerned.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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You may want to consider trying Umbraco[^]. It's free, open-source, and seems to be of pretty reasonable quality. I'll be giving it a spin for a website I'm working on now.
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All I got to say is "Umbraco Pro".. Do not like versions that are both commercial and non-commercial. Already burnt by Community Server (deep pocket server) and now DNN.. Guess that is the new open source world of today..
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I like Notepad, simply because it's quick to open and does its job. I mean, can you imagine having to write or edit code in Word? 
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You can use 'save as' to change the text encoding.
(ANSI, Unicode, Unicode big endian, UTF-8)
Steve Wellens
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Lloyd Atkinson©☺ wrote: simply because it's quick to open and does its job
Ditto.
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Abhinav S wrote: it's quick to open and does its job
Except for when you paste some code into it (forgetting word wrap is on), save the file, then copy all the text and paste it into a regular expression utility and spend a few minutes figuring out why your search isn't producing any results. This happened to me today. The extra line breaks Notepad added wasted a few minutes of my time... all because Notepad doesn't correctly copy text to the clipboard.
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it *is* interesting that such a "simple" product can have that many bugs.
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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Bah... Notepad is the most stable and functional program Microsoft has ever written.
And that says a lot about Microsoft, now doesn't it?
(By the way, never knew about #1 on your list... Just tested it out... Nice)
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Ian Shlasko wrote: Bah... Notepad is the most stable and functional program Microsoft has ever written.
FTFY
Can't resist it. 
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What did you expect from f-in NOTEPAD?!?!
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After several major releases and lots of service packs for all kinds of Windows, I would expect a small app that has always been part of it, to:
1. have a limited but useful functionality;
2. have no remaining bugs whatsoever and hence be an example for everyone.
This thread tells us they missed the second point to quite some extent.
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Yeah, but I don't expect that from MS. Everyone else, yes, but not MS.
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I have a 6th reason: can't open big files with it because it literally tries to read everything at once and hangs.
I have had to read debug log files of mid-development software in Word, as ridiculous as that sounds. 
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Try disabling word wrap. If you have word wrap enabled, it will take MUCH longer to open text files. However, with word wrap disabled, opening files is quite fast. Still, it does have to read in the entire file in before it can display it. I think I've used WordPad in the past to open large text files.
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Lately there are many disscutions about the cloud vs the PC. Something like:
"Your computer would be connected via the internet to a computer cluster.
(This "computer cluster" is just a data center full of servers)
And... Instead of doing any processing work, your computer would instead just act as a midway point between you and the cluster.
All fetching, filing and retrieving (all the hard work a computer does)... Would instead be done by a super-fast computer cluster.
Computing resources would then be a metered service, similar to public utilities like electricity, water or the telephone.
What would this mean?
Your computer would never need to be upgraded. As all the processing work your computer does, would be done by the computing cluster.
What's more... There would be far less technical problems, as any problems can be fixed by expert on-site technicians at the computer cluster.
The result is a cheaper and much faster home PC."
Personally I don't like it(the ideea) very much because it implies that the hardware section of the "computer" will stop inovating and pushing forward. Up till now there was an almost perfect harmony
between the software and the hardware. Sometimes software pushed hardware further and sometimes the other way around.
If the hardware stops then so will the software and the developer would be forced to write "programs" according to the cloud/super-computer supplier(s). I'm not saying no to the ideea of cloud apps. Just no to the "all apps are cloud based". What do you think?
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Everything old is new again. Don't worry.
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Mos Dan - Lucian wrote: What do you think?
I think it's the pendulum swinging the other way. First there were dumb terminals with centralized computers, then the PC revolution decentralized computation, now the Internet is re-centralizing in a slightly different configuration, and eventually we'll move back to a decentralized approach if, and it's a big if, this cloud computing thing ever takes off.
In my crystal ball, I don't see that it will, because of the lack of control (people love to be in control), the cost (why should I pay for something I can do for free after the initial setup costs of my machine at home), the worry that my business (or home) will be shut down if there are connectivity issues, it's bad enough just trying to get the inhouse network guys to fix anything, and lastly, I do a lot of work in a disconnected state, and I imagine other people do as well, and I don't want to be forced to find a network connection simply to write a note to myself to bring extra oxygen the next time I climb Mt. Everest!
Marc
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I've got to call you on this one, Marc, although I generally agree with you on almost every issue.
Marc Clifton wrote: because of the lack of control (people love to be in control)
People do not love to be in control; they love the illusion of being in control, without the actual responsibility involved in that choice. They continually vote (in the US at least) for people who consider themselves smarter than the rest of us, then let them pass laws that destroy our ability to control our own lives, in order to avoid the effort required to study the issues, make hard philisophical decisions about their own motivations, and decide accordingly. That's why we have 535 people who have never worked a real job deciding the future of our retirement and health plans, knowing that they are exempt from both.
The cost issue is what will be the deciding factor in the long run. Buying a software package under the current model is out of the question for most individuals and small companies; software pricing is ridiculous. In the short term, yes, most people will reject the cloud model because they hate change. But in time I think many, if not most, will accept the view of software as a service because most SOHO organizations will find it more palatable to pay $30 a month for word processing than to pay $700 up front for one station.
Your pendulum metaphor is excellent, though; cloud computing will have its day, then the herd will migrate again to a new model.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Roger Wright wrote: People do not love to be in control; they love the illusion of being in control, without the actual responsibility involved in that choice.
I stand corrected. Like "security", control is an illusion as you said, as well.
Roger Wright wrote: But in time I think many, if not most, will accept the view of software as a service because most SOHO organizations will find it more palatable to pay $30 a month for word processing than to pay $700 up front for one station.
I personally disagree. For example, there's good freeware/shareware options out there, non-profits can get huge discounts, and (this is the personal part) when I look at a major purchase, I factor in that I can depreciate or deduct the purchase on my taxes, so the actual cost is, albeit slightly, less.
Imagine though (this thought just came to me) if companies required developers to come with their own licenses. For example, I don't expect to buy the tools that a plumber uses when he visits, I expect him to come with tools he bought!
Marc
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I don't see why the cloud couldn't be put to use for more productive applications, like cellular computing. Every computer could connect to any other computer running a piece of software (possibly an OS for native support) and send it a bit of state and a task to complete. That would allow any computer running the software to form part of an enormous Beowulf cluster.
I could see that technique being used in servers, to reduce the impact of DoS attacks. I think Seti@Home works in a similar way to my idea, but instead of one large task shared between computers, there are millions of tasks, offloaded to and received from multiple computers.
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