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Brian O. wrote:
I've played many times with no success!
AAArrhhh...  I tried....
Nick Parker
Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein
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YES it is possible to win, as Ben mentioned just play one game against the other. And you will see that one of your instances of the game will win and the other will lose... But I haven't done it without cheati...err...help 
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Bob, with a tail and hair - oh my!
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Shog9
Life seems pretty easy when it's from my easy chair
And you're burnin up inside and no one cares...
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Shog9 wrote:
Bob, with a tail and hair - oh my!
A tail? Oh right, I must have clicked "send to back" by accident. 
Joke - it was meant to be a tail.
David Wulff Born and Bred.
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Well done, David!
What a fun site... a pity there's so much crud already there. It would be fun for little kids, if adults hadn't already polluted the gallery.
"My child was Inmate of the Month at Mohave County Jail" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City, AZ
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Thanks!
Now I can fully laugh back at the guy! 
And claim some of my pride back too.  I still spent way too much time on that game though.
That's why I ramble so much. If you're short and quotable, there's a much greater danger of ending up in a sig.
[Christopher Duncan on how to prevent yourself from ending up in a sig]
I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene[Roger Wright on VB] (sorry Christian)
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One of my roommates played both pearl games for hours and never won even once. We have came to the conclusion that it is impossible to win, but having an animated character laugh hyterically at you when you lose makes it all worth it
Brad Jennings
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You can win - and he sulks when you do - just think binary XOR with result = 0 - heck we all programmers this is our native language 
Stupidity dies.
The end of future offspring.
Evolution wins.
- A Darwin Awards Haiku
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just back from the hospital. i fractured my left shoulder in 2 places.  they are going to schedule me for an operation. i'm getting 2 pins placed in my shoulder. i know i wanted to be a part of work, but i didn't want to actually have an of our product in me. oh well.
my girlfriend said, well, look at the bright side: you still have your right hand 
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That's really bad luck - how did it happen ?
zenboy wrote:
i know i wanted to be a part of work, but i didn't want to actually have an of our product in me. oh well.
Do they use any of your software in the procedure ? Any last minute bug fixes planned ? :P
zenboy wrote:
my girlfriend said, well, look at the bright side: you still have your right hand
I been married 10 years, my wife still tells me to leave her alone and use my hand. I tell her my hand was free, if that's all I wanted I wouldn't have made a lifelong financial investment in having her around.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
I been married 10 years, my wife still tells me to leave her alone and use my hand. I tell her my hand was free, if that's all I wanted I wouldn't have made a lifelong financial investment in having her around.
CG, you are really starting to scare me with this marriage thing. I keep falling back to the statement I have heard so many people tell me at my work: "It's a fine institution, if your in an institution." 
Nick Parker
Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein
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zenboy wrote:
i fractured my left shoulder in 2 places
As Christian said, how did it happen?!
zenboy wrote:
.....schedule me for an operation. i'm getting 2 pins placed in my shoulder
Good luck...
Regards
Agni.
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actually, i'm not sure. i take insulin and i had a reaction to it. so i don't remember anything. (thankfully)
actually the company i work for produces the material used to make the pins i'm getting. i used to test material so i have plenty of faith that its good stuff... maybe
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I typically work with engineers, that are constantly changing the specs. And to make matters worse, the development effort of some of these systems is a year or more, so technology keeps changing. For example, I was working on a project to automate the design of satellites, and by the time we were done, the "10% exception" that we were going to ignore became the "90% standard". Argh!
Do you have to deal with these things, and how do you do it? Is it strictly a management function, or do you try to write code that is flexible enough to handle a certain percentage of spec changes?
Marc
Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
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XTreme Programming is intended to cope with just that.
I, personally, recommend sneaking back into the office at nite, and inserting "Pizza Delivery Quality Control - Test Batch" into the spec
If I could find a souvenir / just to prove the world was here [sighist]
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Marc Clifton wrote:
While I like the concept of Agile Software, I think their implementation, XTreme Programming, misses the mark. Widely.
So how would you do it? And what cool name are you going to trademark for it?
I'd wear a miniskirt and pimp myself for an extra ten grand a year. - David Wulff
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So how would you do it?
Too long of an answer for right now.
However, while I have my ideas and experiences, I've got enough really good responses that I think I could write a (hopefully) interesting article based solely on exploring everyone's responses. I think this would be much more interesting than just Marc's warped viewpoint of the world. It's also something I do well--synthesize concepts out of diverse and sometimes opposing viewpoints.
And in a roundabout way, I think that gets us back to your original comment about hoping for something that wasn't more code. It probably (as in, definitely) won't be the answer to the universe, but maybe the best place to start is, "what do people, right now, think about these issues?" A lot of books have been written about what's wrong with programming/projects, what needs to be improved, etc., but I haven't come across anything that discusses the real world issues that people face in the trenches (well, Death March is excellent). And that needs to be dealt with first before any of these high ideals can be converted into "code". Hmmm. I'm rambling.
And what cool name are you going to trademark for it?
I was going to answer this seriously, but that's too boring, and while I've been thinking about a cool title for an article, I haven't come up with anything. So here's the working title (in contradiction to the above paragraph):
Marc's Way Or The High Way Programming
Any suggestions, serious or otherwise?
Marc
The Yank
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sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
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Marc Clifton wrote:
A lot of books have been written about what's wrong with programming/projects, what needs to be improved, etc., but I haven't come across anything that discusses the real world issues that people face in the trenches
And a lot of people have spent a lot of time pontificating about what's wrong with the way we do things now but I'd like to see some solutions! That's why I like the whole refactoring thing, and Death March, and Steve McConnell's books - because they offer practical advice on how to do things better (and why). Things like "write detailed specs before you start" are just a little too vague
Marc Clifton wrote:
Marc's Way Or The High Way Programming
Not provocative at all That'll go down well with management.
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I just took a look at XP and all I have to say is...
Gee, been doing that for nearly 20 YEARS. I just didn't come up with a catchy name and write a book. It is funny how a fancy cover on the same old garbage sells.
Maybe one day, software development will get out of the snake oil business.
Tim Smith
I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Tim Smith wrote:
It is funny how a fancy cover on the same old garbage sells.
Garbage in, garbage out
Sincerely Yours,
Brian Hart
Department of Physics and Astronomy
University of California, Irvine
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