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in the kitchen with a knife?
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In 'Curtain, Poirot's Last Case' the little Belgian IS the murderer.
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Not the only one either. Did you not consider it suspicious that wherever he goes, murder follows? And he is always the one who "works out" who is guilty?
Occams razor says: Poirot did it and pinned it on the other guy! 
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Cannibals capture three men. The men are told that they will be skinned and eaten and then their skin will be used to make canoes. Then they are each given a final request. The first man asks to be killed as quickly and painlessly as possible. His request is granted, and they poison him. The second man asks for paper and a pen so that he can write a farewell letter to his family. This request is granted, and after he writes his letter, they kill him, saving his skin for their canoes. Now it is the third man's turn. He asks for a fork. The cannibals are confused, but it's his final request, so they give him a fork. As soon as they do, he begins stabbing himself all over and shouts, "The hell with your canoes!"
/ravi
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They'd just ground his dead body up into a mashed heap and use it as inner stuffing for their canoe.
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He was given a final request, why didn't he just asked to be freed? 
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My dear fellow, how splendidly clever! Clearly you're experienced in these matters. I wonder what Aunt Agatha would have to say to all this. 
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: I wonder what Aunt Agatha would have to say to all this.
Good one there!
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I first saw that as "Captured by Cannabis". Which reminds me...
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Did you hear about the cannibal that passed his friend in the jungle?
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KAOS Agent: I'm a sportsman. I'll let you pick the way you wanna die.
Maxwell Smart: Oh. Ok, eh, how about old age?
--Get Smart, 1968
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Perhaps the banks though it was payback time 
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I always keep a modest cash reserve for issues like this.
Especially on a Friday, not being able to withdraw funds can disrupt your plans.
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Whee! 
I ordered a new table saw last week, and Sears informed me that it would be available for pickup in two weeks. So I was surprised to get a call yesterday informing me that the saw was ready, a week early! Weekend plans out the door, I picked it up - with the help of a couple of husky clerks - and brought it home. That sucker weighs over 300 lbs! As anyone who has dealt with Sears knows, "some assembly required..." I assembled the beast, aided by a large volume of beer, as instructed by the manual. All went well until the part where I'm supposed to turn it over; the instruction, quite reasonably, start with the unit upside down until the legs are assembled. What to do? Its 300+ lbs versus my 135 lbs. It's an easy call as to which of us will win the gravity game.
I tried levers, I thought about using a cable puller attached to the roof beams, but none quite fit. After an hour or so of fiddling with different ways to improve my leverage, I remembered a useless piece of kit I bought last year to move a pair of engines for a 1936 Ford, then put away for lack of any other purpose:
The right tool for the job[^]
Dad was right - there's no such thing as "too many tools!"
Will Rogers never met me.
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You could have removed the missis tools in the background before taking the picture though
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Do what they do in car-repair shops: dig a trench underneath it, and work from below.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Your dad is (was?) a smart man. There is no such thing as too many tools. I am always on the look out for tool sales, even if they are tools I do not have an immediate use for.
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Indeed right tool for the right job.
You got a nice saw, sear's makes a great saw had a couple of them over the years.
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I like Craftsman, always have. My old saw is a rusty old beast I bought used a couple of decades ago, and since one of the next projects I want to tackle is new kitchen cabinets, I needed something that cuts accurately and smoothly. The old one was good enough for building fences, but cabinetry requires a little more precision.
Last week I got my lady a 29' travel trailer for her to make into an office. At $400 it was a steal, even though a couple of spots on the floor are rotted out. She's been ripping cabinets and beds out of it this week, so we can get to the floor today, so I've loaded up the old saw on the trailer to take up to her place today. She's going to need one, I think, and she's wanted one for a long time.
You wouldn't happen to know a source of cheap trailer jacks, would you Mike? We want to get the wheels off the ground so they don't rot, and county regulations won't let us permanently install the thing. It's about 5,000 lbs, 29' long, with two I-beams underneath it running lengthwise...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Quote: Last week I got my lady a 29' travel trailer for her to make into an office. At $400 it was a steal
Damn hope you don't get arrested?
Coincidentally a friend of mine was given a 34' camper in excellent condition, with a roll out living room.
Roger Wright wrote: I've loaded up the old saw on the trailer to take up to her place today. She's going to need one, I think, and she's wanted one for a long time.
Now that's a true girl friend, one that tackles that todo list herself instead of expecting you to do it. That leaves you to the more important projects like drinking bear and watching football.
Roger Wright wrote: You wouldn't happen to know a source of cheap trailer jacks
No can't help you there I've never had occasion to need them. Do you plan on putting a strapping solution on it with all the wind y'all have out there? I don't think the straps and earth bolts, or whatever they call them cost a lot and might save it from rolling. Just a thought!
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Roger, that's a mighty fine saw you've got there. I hope it works as well as it looks. Your dad's advice was correct. I have some 30 power tools of various types and I've standardised on Festool now. As they say, if you buy cheap, you buy twice; the first outlay to appreciate you made the wrong decision and the second outlay to let you know you should have done it right first time.
It must be nice to have that sort of space around your home. What's this gravity malarkey you refer to? Is it something we need to know about?
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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Sadly, I do not have enough space around the home, but with enough pushing and shoving, I can usually make room for any project. That makes nearly everything take about twice as long as it should, but it's worth it. As long as I can keep the good stuff out of the weather, I'm happy. And when I need the room, I push the good stuff outside - since the weather is rarely a problem here - and carry on.
By the way, gravity is the only reason I need a ladder...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote: my 135 lbs.
Jealous!
Roger Wright wrote: for a 1936 Ford,
Even more jealous!
/ravi
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Interesting - just like something out of a movie. A North Korean guard killed his superiors[^], then defected to South Korea.
Technically speaking, the two countries are still at war, and "all's fair..." as the saying goes. But the guy admits to committing what would be classified as murder for a civilian in a civilized country. Not wanting to start a political discussion, let's keep it civil - I'm curious about world opinion, and we have a great cross-section here. Do you think South Korea should give him back to stand trial, or risk elevating the "war" by giving him asylum?
If I was making the decision, I honestly don't know what I'd do.
So, no discussion here, just vote:
1. Send him back.
3. I dunno, I'm confused, too.
5. Protect him at all cost.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Send him back. The West has enough murderers.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Don't know what I would do either? Murder is murder but if someone wanted out that bad and that was the only option I would probably do whatever it took? Dunno
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Give him a medal.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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/ravi
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Make it someone else's problem: "accidentally" let him escape (by force if neccesary) and deny all responsibility.
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Prison in South Korea is probably better than life in North Korea.
Nihil obstat
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i would ask myself "what would the North Koreans do if the situation were reversed"? The answer is then obvious: pin a medal on him and declare him a national hero. Honor him with parades and free stuff.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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Except, nobody defects to North Korea.
/ravi
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Didn't Leonard's girlfriend in Big Bang Theory do just that?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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mark merrens wrote: Big Bang Theory
Haven't seen the show.  (I don't watch much TV).
/ravi
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Big Bang Theory is considered mandatory for geeks.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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Would you give him back to a country whose leader looks like a bloated pig and an ugly sonofabitch to boot?
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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I'll go with number three: "I dunno, I'm confused, too."
Too many "loose ends here:"
1. The defector may be a plant, the killings of his officers a staged, phony event. No one in S. Korea has direct evidence as to what happened (?).
2. The defector may have been a S. Korean spy who killed the officers because he was warned they were on to him (?).
3. The defector may have been approached by one, or both, of the officers with a plan for them all to defect, but it was a subterfuge to test his loyalty; at some point he realized that, and murders them before they can send him, and his family, to the gulags (?).
4. The defector had reported plans by his two officers to defect, and they intercepted them before they could reach the N. Korean secret police: somehow he was lucky enough to shoot them before they shot him (?).
Too many possibilities, too little information. Sources of information suspect: information present not verifiable.
best, Bill
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Bill, I'm sure you remember East German refugees defecting to West Germany? The situation in North Korea is orders of magnitude worse. Systematic starvation and brainwashing. The North Korean population is cut off from the rest of the world. Information is restricted from flowing into the country - most North Koreans are unaware of the moon landing, basic human rights and the ability to purchase as much food as you need.
/ravi
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Hi Ravi,
Yes, I am quite aware of the facts you cite, but I cannot see what the point was in your stating them, in this context, as a response to this particular message.
Did you infer, from my vote for option three, that I would advocate sending this defector back to North Korea: if so, I ask you to examine that, because: to me, that inference does not logically follow from my choice of option three
It is also a fact that both North and South Korea are engaged in significant espionage against each other using human agents, and every other means possible. And, of course, the US maintains intense surveillance of N. Korea, as well as probably collaborating with (in ways we'll never know) S. Korean intelligence services.
best, Bill
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North Korea has been opressing its citizens (both physically and mentally) ever since Korea was divided in two. South Korea has always welcomed refugees from North Korea and continues to strive to unite families cut apart by North Korea's dictatorial regime. The situation is similar to orders of magnitude worse than what existed in pre-1989 Germany. Hence, my vote of 5.
/ravi
modified 6 Oct '12 - 22:07.
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Would North Korea send him back if he did the opposite? No, they'd give him a medal.
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How does this not fall under posting rule number 4?
Posting rules for the lounge: 4. No politics ... This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.
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Actually, it was a test directed specifically at programmers. One of the most important skills a programmer must develop is the ability to read and understand requirements accurately, then faithfully implement them. The instructions were:
"... no discussion here, just vote:"
By my count, 6 people passed, at most. It's possible that some of the 6 who voted also posted a comment, thus failing the test, but hopefully a few clicked a number and moved on, as required.
How'd you do? 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote: How'd you do?
Really good. I saw through all your bullshit and recognized you were posting political commentary in the lounge.
Shame on you. You should know better.
modified 9 Oct '12 - 19:21.
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I do know better, and I specifically requested no discussion, which was largely ignored. I offered no commentary whatsoever, merely pointed out that I would be hard pressed to make a decision. I was curious to learn whether the general population would be troubled by indecision, or find it easy to make a judgement call. Most of those who ignored my request and posted a discussion, I found, were quite able to reach a decision, based on preconceived notions, yet of those who followed instructions and voted, the result was balanced, with the average falling in the center. Quite interesting, and the more so because so many found it impossible to read and follow directions, including yourself.
Have you always been a consummate ass, or was there a time when you were a reasonable human being? Do you ever miss the simple things in life, like respect and credibility?
Honestly, Jimmie, I have long read and enjoyed your commentary, but you've really over-reached on this one. Resorting to insult and crude language is beneath you - you're a better man than that.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote: I do know better, and I specifically requested no discussion, which was largely ignored.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote: I offered no commentary whatsoever, merely pointed out that I would be hard pressed to make a decision.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote: I was curious to learn whether the general population would be troubled by indecision, or find it easy to make a judgement call.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote: Most of those who ignored my request and posted a discussion, I found, were quite able to reach a decision, based on preconceived notions, yet of those who followed instructions and voted, the result was balanced, with the average falling in the center.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote: Quite interesting, and the more so because so many found it impossible to read and follow directions, including yourself.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote: Honestly, Jimmie, I have long read and enjoyed your commentary, but you've really over-reached on this one. Resorting to insult and crude language is beneath you - you're a better man than that.
Sorry Rodger but I have to call you out on this one. I hope you can respect me because I did.
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