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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberSoMad4 Nov '12 - 10:14 
I downloaded this tool http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools[^] to see if there are any detectable problems. My drive is a nice, but aging WD RE2 (aka. WD5000ABYS) and it is not showing any errors in the S.M.A.R.T. analysis.
Power_On_Hours is listed at 22152, which comes out to approximately 2.5 years.
 
This leads me to a question for all of you: Have you ever been warned about pending problems from running a S.M.A.R.T. diagnostics tool?
I once tried it out on a system at work, that had HD failures all the time, but the S.M.A.R.T. system never reported any issues with it.
 
Soren Madsen
GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberJörgen Andersson4 Nov '12 - 20:54 
The problem is that when S.M.A.R.T. reports a problem it's already to late.
 
Harddrives nowadays come with a set of reserve sectors, and whenever the hardrive fails to write a sector it will mark it as broken and use a reserve sector instead. When the harddrive is out of reserve sectors S.M.A.R.T. starts screaming. Until then the harddrive is completely quiet and reports everything as being fine.
 
S.M.A.R.T. is supposed to be predictive. I don't believe it.
 
Here's[^] some really interesting info from Google Research.
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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberSoMad5 Nov '12 - 9:38 
Thank you for the link. I remember seeing a reference to this Google study, but I don't recall ever reading this article before.
 
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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberBillWoodruff4 Nov '12 - 1:14 
Hi Soren,
 
Consolations ! I have had this happen several times. In two cases, the boot-disk had "died."
 
In other cases, I was able to get around the no-boot scenario by dis-connecting all other drives, dis-connecting the SATA cable from the boot-drive, and the motherboard, and re-connecting them, and then re-booting. If no re-boot after re-connecting the original SATA cable: I then plugged in my spare SATA cable and re-tested.
 
Once I verified I could re-boot off the primary drive, I re-connected other drives, and checked the BIOS to make sure I had the correct primary boot disk selected: then re-tested, to make sure I could boot with all drives connected.
 
Needless to say, I breathed a sigh of relief when I could re-boot without a complete drive image restore, and immediately created a new archived boot-drive image: in case what happened was a "first symptom" of drive failure.
 
Whether what I did will work for you, or anyone else, I have no idea; I can only say: that was my experience.
 
best, Bill
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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberSoMad4 Nov '12 - 9:42 
That is interesting. You managed to get it going by doing some cable juggling. I am not sure that would have worked for me, given the repair activity CHKDSK performed. I don't remember all of it, but there were orphaned files, relocation of bad blocks and other goodies.
 
Note that I did try to disable various things in the BIOS, but to no avail. I am just happy that the other boot disk managed to fix things.
 
Soren Madsen
AnswerRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberPablo Aliskevicius4 Nov '12 - 2:12 
A dual boot disk with Linux saved my XP data more than once. It can take as little as 15GB.
My blood pressure is much steadier thanks to that...
Wink | ;)
Pablo.
 
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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberClifford Nelson4 Nov '12 - 3:08 
Takes only 15gB, not as cheap as would have expected, but definately better than windows.
GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberZac Greve4 Nov '12 - 3:20 
I use a Fedora ive CD (I like Fedora)
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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberForogar4 Nov '12 - 3:24 
I always set up my machines with two copies of the O/S in separate partitions and set one as the primary boot with a three-second delay on boot manager. Then if, as has happened more than once, my O/S won't boot, I boot to the other one and use it to fix the first one - I have done this three times in the last ten or so years with success every time. The only time I had a problem was with an actual hardware failure on the main boot drive.
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GeneralRe: When booting in Safe Mode fails.memberSoMad4 Nov '12 - 9:36 
I actually have 2 drives in my system, but the data drive has never been bootable - seems like I should change that Smile | :)
 
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