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Kevin Marois wrote: Me thinks voting results should remain unannounced until it's all over.
Me thinks the voting results should remain unannounced. Period.
Neither of the candidates is competent, imho.
Marc
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I can't argue with that
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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It has been the lesser of two evils for some time now.
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My thoughts, exactly. But what else are they going to report on in order to sell more advertising?
It's interesting (and depressing) to me to look back over my adult life, and realize that not once has my Party offered me a credible candidate to vote FOR, though the other Party has had no trouble fielding candidates I wanted badly enough to lose that I forced myself to vote. If one Party can consistently offer up candidates who are evil and incompetent, one would think that the other Party would have enough sense to offer a clear alternative. But, Nooooo.... 
Will Rogers never met me.
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If you want mainstream buy-in, provide for the consumer. Remember that the consumer is lazy (like me). I want to use your thing, likely on Windows, give me binaries I can use. I don't really want to compile it.
If you are going to make me compile, package the whole thing in one spot. I don't want to have to hunt down and download half the internet just to see if your library will work for me.
Why no VS projects? I'm lazy remember, I don't want to be messing with makefiles and command line compilation - I'm not hardcore like you.
Come on open-sourcerrs - assist my laziness!
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Any particular project in mind? I wanna know which ones to avoid.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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In this instance, libgeotiff, but it seems a common malaise. Almost everytime I've read about features of an OS lib and thought 'Sounds interesting, I might be able to use that' I find I have to download their source, and some other lib and a different framework etc. Then figure out how to compile it in Windows - which often seems to require code changes, modifications to makefiles and the like.
Generally I don't actually have time to figure it out, especially if it's a bit of a speculative inquiry. I get the impression that some OS proponents do it deliberately, being so rabidly anti-Microsoft or anti-PC, but that smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.
Some, like GIMP, provide well for Windows users. Some do provide win-binaries, but don't seem to emphasise them or market them very well, others don't give you anything.
ROI is usually so low for me, I often turn to closed solutions I can BUY and use straight-away, which is surely more 'harmful' to the OS movement??
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I feel your pain. It is a hassle to go on to try several libraries and see which would work best and face those bizarre errors. It comes to the point I am completely surprised when one of those suddenly work out-of-the-box, specially when it is C/C++ code.
But by the way, it turns out I am also the developer of an open source library - so if you find anything to rant about it, please let mw know! 
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Well you have to pay for VS, makefile are free, that's why!
Codeplex did make MS-opensource better friend, yet it mostly worked for C# ...
Most C++ opensource project are only using opensource tools. There is only one open source cross platform world accept tool for C++, it's makefile!
I know it's a pain!
But... did you know (Myself learned quite recently) that... there is a way to convert makefile to visual studio (I stumbled upon it recently but forgot and can't find it again!) I think it might be a make option...
try "make --?" and see if one option fits the bill...
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station....
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My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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They could use VS Express perhaps? But surely, providing support for 'consumerist' developers running Windows and using VS would substantially increase their potential pool of contributors? Which I would think they would see as a benefit.
The 'OS project must only use OS tools' attitude again seems needlessly self-limiting to me. OK, support other OS projects, but not to the exclusion of a potentially large pool of time-poor developers!
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