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GeneralThe word "Extreme" is an exaggeration Pinmemberdevvvy8-Nov-12 15:42 
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GeneralRe: Software Development with Extreme Programming [modified] PinmemberMember 47528899-Nov-12 10:00 
Marc Clifton wrote:
Would you read (YA) book on this topic? What would it take to get you to read such a book?
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With the number of books already on the market on the Software Development and XP, I couldn't imagine wanting another,   unless...
 
Unless, that book took on a code-and-architecture implementation driven approach using an actually real world project,   or better yet, series of real world projects from different industry domains and technologies, to explain each step of   the Software Development process. The idea here could be (should you consider this) show just how extreme programming   can be implemented in a complete traceable Software Development Life Cycle (SDLC for short) - if, indeed, this is   possible.
 
The reason I say this is because my experience of XP leads me to see the process as strictly a creative process that can   be used within a SDLC framework. This notion may sound strange but the reality is that the current (and even the   tradition) SDLC frameworks have already clearly shown their strengths to account for project management for managing the   Software Development effort. And, I believe, due to a number of problems including the lack of software development   standards, that XP is now showing a strong means to ensure the software process gets done while allowing the   developer(s) an excellent piece of mind to exercise their creativity as they are applying their skills, learning from   each other, learning new technologies, and capturing a happier customer in the process.
 
So while the current SDLC (or perhaps, someone can introduce a modified version of XP to include a strong project   management framework) can be used to manage the project, then the XP lead implementation for developers would serve as   the highly aggressive approach to product delivery and developer retention. Once we have achieve this combination, I   believe (that's just me) that XP will be adopted faster than I am taking to writing this message!
 
Of course, the title of the book can reflect on this stance and as a final point - we love stories (haven't met anyone   who doesn't) and, we in the developer community, especially, crave for those stories of people (developers' experiences)   at work actually doing the stuff - making the book in this fashion can make it irresistible. (Heck, I am still craving   for more literature like the book called "Extreme Programming Adventures in C Sharp")
 
But, I believe the point is that extreme programming on its own still has to prove itself TO BE on its OWN, which I'm   sure most folks will agree with me. So, if you can write something (perhaps like what I've just mentioned or better)   then XP will finally have its place (and developers WORLDWIDE will be thanking you (or whoever) for their enjoyment AND   piece of mind).
 
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Jose Montero
MONTEC Computer Software & Training Services
mgr@montecsonline.com

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