I resemble that remark. Wait, what was the... Oooohhh look at the shiny thing!
…I agree with everything you say…
So I disagree with your dissenting opinion of the original post… and we agree? I’m confused. So if A=B and B=C, then …
I think I need more college!
Joking aside, I’ve wondered how much location might affect the degree vs self-taught argument. Do good universities “suck up” coders who would otherwise self-teach? Do bad colleges promote self-taught coders? Food for thought…
In the end it’s really about risk management. Ignoring degree-less coders ignores some fantastic coders… along with some not-so-great coders that college would otherwise weed out. I guess it’s a “pick your poison” situation.
i am master degree educated, work in quant finance but i agree with you - i still regret countless hours i wasted in education just to get the right paper so i can be hired by reputable firms to earn a *middle class* income
Also, schools didn't teach me how to think or communicate - they lied.
I find that 90% of what I learned, I learned from others. Some from classes I took in college, but now, 20 years later, most of what I know has been learned from others outside college. There are some techniques I learned in college that I still use, and that others have no clue about. They weren't fun to learn, and most of the world gets by fine without them, but I know just that little bit more than others, occasionally it even matters.
College caused me to learn a lot more about a wide variety of computer topics than I ever would have done if left to my own, and I'm a pretty curious sort. A lot of the more esoteric topics I probably wouldn't have bothered to learn on my own because they take a lot of time for very little gain. On the other hand, sometimes topics come into vogue that I was forced to learn in college.. and then its a been-there-done-that sort of affair for me rather than an epiphany.
College will teach you things and techniques that you won't teach yourself. Those things will end up being mental tools for you your whole career, or maybe even a basis of understanding and experience in some "new" programming idea that becomes popular later on in your career. Whether you want to spend the time and money to have that sort of background is up to you.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
Pubs are in decline because drinking is so damn expensive these days, and also because there are not large numbers of manual labour jobs where everyone has a drink down the pub after work. That's been increasingly true for 20 years, I guess. So demand is down, and costs are a long way up (particularly labour – bar staff have to be paid at least minimum wage – and rent). Most British towns are over-supplied with pubs for the modern level of demand so it's inevitable that some will close.