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GeneralRe: For you no guns solution people PinmvpChristian Graus14-Dec-12 12:16 
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GeneralRe: For you no guns solution people Pinmemberjschell14-Dec-12 14:14 
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GeneralRe: For you no guns solution people [modified] PinmemberSmart K814-Dec-12 22:17 
Read these, if you are able to step past your determination that you're - of course - right:
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11130511[^]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447364/[^]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17070975[^]
 
It's not that easy of a correlation. There are many underlaying factors. But gun availability is a major one of them. Sometimes people are unable to realize that they're standing on the wrong side, because they're hiding behind the simplified models of reality, and require obvious and meaningless evidence. If that is not presented - as it solves nothing - they consider it as a proof of them being correct.
 
As I already said. It works in Europe and Japan (because you really can't - or rather want - to compare US to third world countries), so you're beating a dead horse - so to speak. I know of nobody, who would know, where to obtain an illegal weapon. Some of us know where to probably obtain a legal one, but it would take complex expensive courses, then to buy an rather expensive gun. So if you get really mad with someone you don't go for gun, and kill him, but at best beat him (then again, I never felt this urge ever). The guns in Europe are usually for one of four major reasons:
 
1) robbing the banks (usually as a threat)
2) underground disputes - illegal ownership
3) hunt, sports, police, etc. usually harmless legal means
4) properly tested legal owners - hobby, or for a feeling of protection
 
in US it's also:
 
5) almost anyone - the untested owners (the emotionally unstable people, people who doesn't even know how to handle the gun properly, you name it...)
The wisdom is to see things truthfully.


modified 15-Dec-12 3:25am.

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