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GeneralRe: Merry Christmas to all Code project membermembercooky2426-Dec-12 1:41 
Thank you, and merry christmas to you!!!
 
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GeneralRe: Merry Christmas to all Code project membermemberSuvabrata Roy26-Dec-12 1:59 
Same to you...
GeneralPCI to USB 3.0 Cardsmemberlewax0025-Dec-12 22:34 
For Christmas I got a new case for my desktop, but I have a small problem: the front ports are all USB 3.0 (despite the listed specs of 2x USB 2.0 and 1x USB 3.0), but my motherboard doesn't support it. Not a big deal, because there are PCI cards that support USB 3.0...except I can't find one with 2 internal 19-pin headers (which I need to use all three ports). I've checked all my usual places, and if they're out there they aren't easy to find. D'Oh! | :doh:
 
I could of course get 2 PCI cards (I have the space now, and they aren't that expensive), or only attach two of the ports, but ideally I would like to be able to do all three with just one card. Or the really weird set up of one header to a card, and the second converted to a USB plug and run out the tubing holes in back and plugged into an external port of the card. So if anyone happens to know of a PCI card fitting that description, I'd love to know where I can get one...
GeneralRe: PCI to USB 3.0 CardsmemberPualee26-Dec-12 2:36 
lewax00 wrote:
but I have a small problem: the front ports are all USB 3.0 (despite the listed
specs of 2x USB 2.0 and 1x USB 3.0)

 
And you cant get the company to sort that out?
 
Seems to me you are solving the wrong problem.
GeneralRe: PCI to USB 3.0 Cardsmemberlewax0026-Dec-12 8:43 
Either way I need a PCI card to support the USB 3.0, do why would I want lesser specs? D'Oh! | :doh: In this case I just need a converter with 2 ports instead of 1...
AnswerRe: PCI to USB 3.0 CardsmemberMario Majčica26-Dec-12 7:12 
I doubt you will find anything similar. What about something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Tek-USB3-0-Adapter-Cable/dp/B005NGGKPU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1356545326&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+19+pin+adapter[^] it could be a valid alternative.
 
In combination with this can solve all of your problems: http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-External-Internal-Connector-EC04-P/dp/B009YDO05U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1356545484&sr=1-1&keywords=ec-04[^]
 
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GeneralRe: PCI to USB 3.0 CardsmemberMario Majčica26-Dec-12 7:22 
I just saw that what I suggested was a F/F cable. Does it really need to be a USB3? Can you opt for two USB3 and two USB2 connections?
 
What about this http://www.amazon.com/USB3-0-Front-towards-USB2-0-Motherboard/dp/B009SJCPO8/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1356545650&sr=1-4&keywords=usb+19+pin+adapter[^]
 
Otherwise a little bit of DIY is inevitable.
 
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GeneralRe: PCI to USB 3.0 Cardsmemberlewax0026-Dec-12 8:39 
Didn't realize that was an option. That's a definite possibility. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:
GeneralMerry ChristmasmemberDrABELL25-Dec-12 18:09 
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GeneralUh, Call of The Lounge got mememberJacek Gajek25-Dec-12 13:34 
I haven't been to CP for a long time and when I finally got here, the only place I visit is The Lounge. Blush | :O What the hell is wrong about this forum?
BTW it is fun to observe how CP subtitle changes over time... When I was registering it was homely "Your Visual Studio and .NET Homepage", at some point of time it changed to a serious "Programming Resource", and now it is a social "CodeBook For those who code". I think it accurately describes the evolution of CP Wink | ;)
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GeneralThe SnowmenprotectorPete O'Hanlon25-Dec-12 6:24 
The Doctor's face in the opening title sequence and a hot young companion. All in all, very promising and there's no spoilers from me this night.

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GeneralRe: The Snowmen - Well one spoilerprotectorPete O'Hanlon25-Dec-12 6:57 
I like the look of the new TARDIS.

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GeneralRe: The Snowmen - Well one spoilermember0bx25-Dec-12 12:23 
Me too, it just looks like an actual spaceship again, and it has cool details like the Gallifreyan iconography on the walls and the "aquarium/liquid metal thing" under the floor.
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GeneralRe: The Snowmenmember_Maxxx_25-Dec-12 11:52 
I've been keepi away from any Dr. Related news, as we get the episode later tonight I think.
 
But I did hear that the new companion is the young lady who we all (well, me at least) fell in love with in the episode where she turned out to be a Dalek in disguise.
 
I do hope that is the case
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GeneralRe: The SnowmenmemberPHS24125-Dec-12 23:00 
_Maxxx_ wrote:
But I did hear that the new companion is the young lady who we all (well, me at least) fell in love with would like to shag in the episode where she turned out to be a Dalek in disguise.

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GeneralRe: The Snowmenmember_Maxxx_25-Dec-12 23:42 
While I wouldn't turn down an opportunity for scary-clad coupling, I can assure you mines a true love, and not lust.
 
Honest.
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GeneralRe: The SnowmenmemberGarth J Lancaster25-Dec-12 23:34 
yeah, great episode - just seen it here in Aus this eve .. glad Oswin made a come-back
 
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GeneralRe: The SnowmenmemberW Balboos26-Dec-12 2:14 
Is it just me?
 
I've been a Dr Who fan since the 1980's. One thing I've noticed with the 'new' Drs has been a lot more tendency to depend upon action and special effects instead of story line. I still watch, but my wife will only watch episodes from the first six doctors.
 
Where are concepts like Logopolis and Castrovalva ? Rose was very good - closest thing we've had to Lela in a long time.
 
I've not seen the latest, so without commenting on it, is anyone else somewhat disappointed?


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GeneralRe: The SnowmenmemberDalek Dave26-Dec-12 2:37 
I thought this was one of the better stories and certainly the best of the Christmas ones.
Clara is fine. Very fine indeed.
 
Nice touch about having the great intelligence back.
 
And as for getting Gandalf himself to be part of it, superb!
 
Looking forward to the rest of the season.
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GeneralRe: The SnowmenprotectorPete O'Hanlon26-Dec-12 5:21 
And a nice reference to the London Underground in there. A real pleaser for the long term fan.

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GeneralRe: The SnowmenmemberbVagadishnu26-Dec-12 2:43 
I don't think this is a spoiler.
Most shows are an hour long and at the end of the hour, I says to myself, self, they cannot end it here. Then I noticed the episode was longer than an hour. Phew!
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GeneralAn OS for the web. Is it a good idea? [modified]membererikroyall25-Dec-12 2:53 
As a software developer, I know what makes a good Thumbs Up | :thumbsup: software. But when it comes to programming them, gosh! I had a lot of night-outs, especially when making a browser engine.
 
Then came this thought: why couldn't making software be any easier and faster? Then came the idea of making an OS. The main concept was creating and INTERPRETING applications using a database to store information, JavaScript for logics, HTML, CSS and JS for design.
 
I already have a boot loader, Linux kernel. But now, I have a doubt. Is it necessary?
 
Update: Everything is not coded in HTML or JS. It does supports the normal compiled ones. But it is not yet confirmed that which executable type to use.
 
It is not interpreted in a web browser but in a browser engine. You really do not require an internet connection as they work offline. Everything works offline until or unless you want to update the application or download a new one from appStore.
 
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberharold aptroot25-Dec-12 3:04 
I don't see how that solves anything.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?membererikroyall25-Dec-12 3:18 
It's easy to design with Web Technologies so it will make software development easier. But.. it will not enable us to make background services or softwares like Rocket Dock or Rainmeter. A high school student can make his own application as many schools are teaching Simple web development (and of course how to use Visual Studio).
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberharold aptroot25-Dec-12 3:36 
Ok, well good luck. Personally, I'm not convinced, though. Having to jump through all the html/css/js hoops just to make a desktop app (that's what this does, right?) seems counter productive to me.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?membererikroyall25-Dec-12 3:47 
It's easy. Believe me. And there is Codecademy www.codecademy.com, a website that teaches web development an easy style.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberMarcus Kramer26-Dec-12 4:11 
WebDevelopment != SoftwareDevelopment
There are countless problems that cannot be solved by mere web development. If your experience revolves only around web based applications, then I see where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree. What you are suggesting is that every computer needs to be nothing more than a web hosting device which is not practical in any way, shape, or form.
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberJimmyRopes25-Dec-12 5:02 
harold aptroot wrote:
Having to jump through all the html/css/js hoops just to make a desktop Metro app (that's what this does, right?) seems counter productive to me.

 
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberjschell25-Dec-12 16:41 
erikroyall wrote:
It's easy to design with Web Technologies so it will make software development easier.

 
No it isn't.
 
Software development over time rises to meet the demand. The demand drives the innovation. the innovation doesn't drive the demand.
 
erikroyall wrote:
A high school student can make his own application

 
I created my own applications before the Web and before the internet. The complexity has risen, significantly, since then. Complexity both in frameworks/apis/languages that exist to solve problems and complexity of applications that exist to meet need.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?membererikroyall25-Dec-12 3:21 
And if JavaScript is interpreted through an efficient one like Chrome's V8 engine, apps will run fastest than we can imagine.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberCDP180225-Dec-12 5:27 
erikroyall wrote:
JavaScript

erikroyall wrote:
efficient

erikroyall wrote:
interpreted

erikroyall wrote:
fastest

All those things in one sentence about slowpoky 'apps' which spend endless time shoveling megabytes over the web or waiting for a database.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberSentenryu25-Dec-12 23:54 
one time i read in a blog that the V8 engine runs javascript faster than the desktop runs C, that made me take to conclusions:
 
1 - the test PC for C was a 386 and the one for javascript was a I7. (even then i think C is faster...)
 
2 - I must choose better the articles i read.
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberharold aptroot26-Dec-12 0:19 
One trick they really like to pull is write crappy C code and run it through a crappy compiler, and then they say "oh hey, C is not so fast".
They would doubtless also find assembly to be slow.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberSentenryu26-Dec-12 2:50 
men, theyr C code must be really, really, REALLY crappy to run slower than javascript D'Oh! | :doh:
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberRob Graham25-Dec-12 7:38 
No.
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?protectorPete O'Hanlon25-Dec-12 8:28 
And how is this a web bases OS?

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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberEddy Vluggen25-Dec-12 8:46 
erikroyall wrote:
As a software developer, I know what makes a good Thumbs Up | :thumbsup: software.

While we might agree on "best practices", I doubt we'd all agree on what could be called "good software".
 
erikroyall wrote:
Then came the idea of making an OS. The main concept was creating and INTERPRETING applications using a database to store information, JavaScript for logics, HTML, CSS and JS for design.

..imagine writing a webcam-driver using HTML, CSS and JavaScript Cool | :cool:
 
erikroyall wrote:
But now, I have a doubt. Is it necessary?

It's already available. You can download any Linux-distribution and boot the browser on startup.
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?member_Maxxx_25-Dec-12 12:02 
You mean like Google Chrome OS?
 
I guess this is what you are talking about?
 
If I understand you, your reasons for doing this is so that developers can write applications more easily, because they're writing web applications in HTML/JavaScript rather than, say, c# or c++?
 
Thing is, there's nothing to stop you doing that now, the only difference is that the app will be hosted in a browser rather than directly in the OS (except in windows 8 if I understand Metro apps correctly)
 
S in answer to your question "is it necessary" I'd say that it's been done, and sales of google chrome OS would indicate its not exactly the Next Big Thing but certainly a viable concept.
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberGary R. Wheeler25-Dec-12 13:21 
When the only tool you have is a hammer, it does not automatically make all problems require a nail to solve.
 
Contrary to what some people think, not all applications are suitable for running on the web. Anything requiring a guarenteed response time, or typical response times under a second or so, can not run 'from the web'. Web apps can't manage local hardware effectively. Web applications are notoriously poor in terms of UI latency; users are accustomed to poor reaction times because the medium forces them to become so. Any application requiring significant data volumes (megabytes or even gigabytes per second) can't be delegated to a web server.
 
Secondly, there are significant computer systems with no Internet access. No web, no application.
 
While there may be a value is imposing structure on the chaos that is web development, calling that structure an 'operating system' seems overblown and unnecessary.
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberlewax0025-Dec-12 13:51 
You can already run web applications in a browser. Unless you mean giving external sources direct OS/hardware access, in which case you're talking about what is probably the worst-case security scenario imaginable. And, as mentioned above, you can already write apps that run locally in HTML/CSS/JavaScript in Windows 8 (or, in am ore limited fashion, any version of Windows running IE 5 or higher, take a look at HTML Applications[^])
 
So what do you gain by doing that?
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberjschell25-Dec-12 16:43 
Should note that although you are really unlike to solve anything, attempting to do so will teach you a great deal.
GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberDario Solera26-Dec-12 0:46 
Windows 8 already supports writing apps in HTML+JavaScript: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211385.aspx[^]
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GeneralRe: An OS for the web. Is it a good idea?memberPIEBALDconsult26-Dec-12 6:20 
Thumbs Down | :thumbsdown: Thumbs Down | :thumbsdown: Thumbs Down | :thumbsdown: All Web apps suck. Dead | X| Including this one.
 

erikroyall wrote:
why couldn't making software be any easier and faster?

 
For the most part, that tends to make things worse. The best I can say is that, although there tend to be more bugs, they tend to be easier to find and fix.
 
In my opinion, the best balance is in using C.
 

erikroyall wrote:
INTERPRETING applications using a database to store information

 
That sounds like a rule-based system. I have had to work within one of those (for batch processing, not interactive), it did what it was supposed to do and worked fairly well, but it was slooooww and ungainly. Additionally, a whole set of tools was required to maintain the apps and there was no way to validate the logic of the apps. And in the end each rule had to be implemented in a regular programming language anyway so there was little to be gained. The goal was to have a small group of senior developers writing the rules and junior (or off-shore) developers assembling them into apps. I left after a year of that.
 
Which brings to mind -- could you write your OS within the OS? You can write a C compiler in C; you can write a whole OS in C. One can write a Universal Turing Machine. Could you write your interpreter in your new interpreted language? I fear not. Not to say that's a show-stopper, but something to consider.
 

But go ahead and do it, it sounds interesting, and as has been said, you'll probably learn quite a bit.
GeneralI am so high pressuremembercooky2425-Dec-12 1:24 
I am so high pressure and not happy now, this often happened after i called my mom.
Every time i called her, she always say something worry, like how many debt owe others, and my scanty salary.
I know this is not her fault, all the problem is existent, i think if she do not feed me, she will live better, i even hate myself now
i really do not know how to do...
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GeneralRe: I am so high pressurememberEddy Vluggen25-Dec-12 8:59 
cooky24 wrote:
i think if she do not feed me, she will live better

That does not sound very logical; sounds more like she's worrying about how you both gonna live.
 
cooky24 wrote:
i really do not know how to do...

Tell her that it cannot rain forever. Eventually, you'll get a better paying job, or move else, or get promoted.
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GeneralRe: I am so high pressurememberwizardzz26-Dec-12 4:00 
Alcohol, have you tried alcohol?
GeneralWhat are you doing in christmas?membercooky2425-Dec-12 1:15 
what are you doing in christmas? i am working all the day... Smile | :) and saying something, merry christmas!!!
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GeneralRe: What are you doing in christmas?memberCDP180225-Dec-12 2:18 
1) Throwing all Visual Studio versions and development stuff off my notebook.
 
2) Getting myself a nice IDE and a good C++ compiler. Does anybody remember the Watcom compiler?
 
3) Presently writing some code to try out the IDE and the compiler. Next step will be to get access to the (Postgre) database.
GeneralRe: What are you doing in christmas?membererikroyall25-Dec-12 3:09 
Good. VS is slow.. so I switched to MinGW Developer Studio.
GeneralRe: What are you doing in christmas?memberCDP180225-Dec-12 4:10 
That is also one I will take a look at. Right now I have Code::Blocks. Any suggestions for a good web application framework? For web sevices I want to take a look at Apache Axis.

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