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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.mentorDaveAuld19-Jan-13 3:09 
I think they should not try and reclaim the sponsorship money, but simply try and have him prosecuted for deception and fraud.
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.mvpOriginalGriff19-Jan-13 3:41 
Reclaim the money (it was obtained under false pretences after all) and donate it to the cancer charity he is no longer associated with.
He doesn't get to keep the dosh, the charity gets funds it is going to need, and the company gets very good PR at no cost. Win, win, win in my book.
 
Then the Times et al can sue the a$$ off him for falsely suing them... Laugh | :laugh:
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.membermark merrens19-Jan-13 4:38 
He'll probably just say that they knew he was doping and didn't care.
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.memberChrisElston19-Jan-13 6:13 
Has anyone thought to check if the complicated doping he went through can make anyone else's cancer go away?
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.memberahmed zahmed19-Jan-13 13:46 
PHS241 wrote:
his blood money
Really? Don't you think that's a bit strong? How many people have died because he doped-up and won a few races?
 
And no, I don't think he owes them anything. They profited from his endorsements much more than he profited from their sponsorships. If he has to give the money back, then they should also have to give the profits back.
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.memberPHS24119-Jan-13 22:57 
I'm taking poetic licence here as I never suggested anyone died except to say that all his sponsors are tarred with the same brush by profiting from his deceit. I too agree, that he owes them nothing. He took the money they gave him and they took the money the public gave them in return. He won, the sponsors won, and the public won. A three-way tie.
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.memberpwasser19-Jan-13 17:43 
Funky logic there.
He should give his sponsorship back and the companies should give their profit to charity. What about all the members of the public who were duped - aren't they entitled to a refund?
In the end he gave a lot to charity - now it's the turn of the companies who profited.
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GeneralRe: On the subject of Lance Armstorng's sponsors.memberPHS24119-Jan-13 23:09 
It's also interesting to read how a number of other cyclists and athletes conveniently claimed they never received notifications about out-of-competition dope tests. The UK sprinter Dwain Chambers became eligible for London 2012 on the grounds of a legal technicality but he considered only cheating when he took performance-enhancing drugs. Christine Ohurougu missed six out-of-competition tests and was still eligible (after legal protest). As they say, once is accident, twice is coincidence, thrice is happenstance. But six times? LA was no angel but it seems there were many others competing in the same pit of corruption and who were later released back into the fold. Ohurougu went on to win silver in the 2012 Olympics. No matter the doping crime in sport, some are very successful at it. Having a good lawyer does no harm either. I'm sure LA is competently advised.
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GeneralAnother mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 1:55 
This thing has a handle of flat steel that splits into a wide U, almost Y shaped but the V part of the Y is a U. At the end of each side of the U is a pin, and a pulley has a whole on either side of it's main nut, so when you put this thing on the pulley, you can hold it to stop it turning while you loosed or tighten the main axle nut of the pulley.
 
I need to remove a pulley that I have zero means of stopping it turning the same direction I'm trying to loosen the nut.
GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.mentorDaveAuld19-Jan-13 2:47 
Depending on the width of the pulley you could clamp it with mole grips to get a hold of it. Or if you have a surface behind it you could wedge it.
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 3:11 
It's the very delicate variator pulley. The front one here[^] is my problem. It's quite a complex affair[^] and I don't want to use any more force or coercion than necessary.
GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut. [modified]mentorDaveAuld19-Jan-13 3:14 
See the two holes in it, you could use them to your advantage, but could potentially crack off the vanes, depending on the material.
 
I think I would try and grip the flat plate between the vanes.
 
What is behind the pulley? is there flats on the shaft that you could put a spanner on?
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modified 19-Jan-13 9:25am.

GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 3:41 
Dave, you are a mechanic and a gentleman. It wasn't easy, there wasn't much but the kick-start axle to blobk the mole pliers, and at the torque of that nut, nobody could have held them by hand. A short length of pipe on the wrench handle and a few abrupt upward pulls finally gave me that satisfying crack when the bastard loosens.
 
It's a good thing I didn't skip this step: the old rollers were looking very untidy and not all lying nicely sidewise. My new belt, and me, would have been at high risk for two weeks - until payday and I took it to a workshop, hehe.
 
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberRoger Wright19-Jan-13 20:32 
I've never heard of a variator, Brady, but that pulley looks to be riddled with stress cracks. The vanes on it look thick enough to use a strap wrench, though, or if that doesn't work, a flat piece of steel wedged between a pair of vanes should do to anchor it while you turn the nut. If those lines are cracks, as they appear to be, I'd be replacing that pulley straight away, before the whole assembly disintegrates!
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut. [modified]memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 20:55 
A pulley style CVT drive has two pulleys, a variator at the front, and a clutch at the back. The variator changes diameter according to engine revs, thus changing the gear ratio between it and the clutch pulley.
 
It certainly does look a bit long in the tooth, crack-wise though. Think it will last two weeks of very light driving?

modified 20-Jan-13 3:10am.

GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberRoger Wright21-Jan-13 16:09 
Brady Kelly wrote:
Think it will last two weeks of very light driving?

Assuming that you don't mess with it too much, nor stress it with very hard driving, it just might. Good luck! Big Grin | :-D
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberLabVIEWstuff19-Jan-13 3:26 
Would you be able to put a strap-wrench (usually used on car oil-filters) around the pulley?
 
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.mentorDaveAuld19-Jan-13 3:29 
The guy in this video removes his (at 3m 30s)!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyb9NyR-Sjs[^]
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.mvpOriginalGriff19-Jan-13 3:38 
One way to do it that emulates the tool would be to put two close-fitting bolts in the two holes, then use a bar between them to lever it - you'd have to be careful because the bar would have to go over the top of the socket you were using to turn the nut, but...if you have a good ring spanner that fits tightly round the nut you should be able to wedge that against the ground and turn the pulley instead of the nut if you have a heavy bloke sitting on the motor.
 
If you have space between the pulley and the crankcase, a pair of nuts on each bolt (one each side of the pulley) would help keep things tight while you lever it all round. Do you know if it is right or left thread? Generally it's the opposite of the crank rotation to make sure it self tightens (and you don't want to try and go the wrong way!)
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 4:32 
The holes don't go through the pulley. DaveAuld's molly pliers solution above worked well.
GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.mvpOriginalGriff19-Jan-13 5:00 
Excellent! Hope it works when it comes to re-fitting it as well.
 
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 5:13 
It did, but refitting is much easier. The torque against the socket rotation is much greater, being trying to reverse the engine and associated gearing.
GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberH.Brydon19-Jan-13 7:59 
I see you did it but this is exactly the type of thing an impact wrench is for.
 
[... and the guy on the youtube vid uses an impact wrench.]
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GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberRedDK19-Jan-13 13:43 
I think I've done this before.
 
Way back when ... I made sure to remove a head and cylinder and then inserted the biggest screwdriver in my kit through the piston/throw bearing. This had the effect of keeping the crank from turning once the screwdriver seated on the case.
 
Might also require an impact wrench to free up that 19mm (sp?) nut. Sometimes there''s the overzealous mechanic and the tube of locktite that did the future damage (squeeze time machine)1
GeneralRe: Another mechanics question: A tool that stops pulleys turning while you tighten or loosen a nut.memberBrady Kelly19-Jan-13 19:17 
Now the hardest part remains. Putting the air filter back over the transmission casing. I removed it by pulling it hard enough to pop out the carb's air tube, which there is no way to reach. I don't think I'll get it back like that.

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