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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliasitebuilderNish Sivakumar23 Jan '13 - 8:05 
AspDotNetDev wrote:
Link or it didn't happen.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/trillion-shale-oil-find-surrounding-coober-pedy-can-fuel-australia/story-e6frg6n6-1226560401043[^]
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JokeRe: Oil in AustraliamemberRutvik Dave23 Jan '13 - 8:17 
Which also means they have WMDs, yes they got to have.... Roll eyes | :rolleyes:
GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliaprotectorPete O'Hanlon23 Jan '13 - 9:05 
They can deploy Skippy in 45 minutes.

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GeneralRe: Oil in Australiamemberdjj5523 Jan '13 - 9:17 
What about Donk[^]?
GeneralRe: Oil in Australiamember d@nish 23 Jan '13 - 20:50 
Wicked and awesome.
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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberColin Mullikin23 Jan '13 - 8:27 
Article:
ranging from 3.5 billion to 233 billion barrels of oil.
WHAT?! If I made estimates like that, people would call me an idiot. What's the point of an estimate if the upper bound is 6657% larger than the lower limit...? D'Oh! | :doh:
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
 
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
 
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin


GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamentorDaveAuld23 Jan '13 - 8:35 
The rock doctors have to guess what the various reservoirs may be holding, hence such a varied range.
 
Here, you have a go, here is the STOIIP calculation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_in_place[^]
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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberColin Mullikin23 Jan '13 - 9:01 
I'm not saying I could do better, but then again, I'm not a mechanical engineer/geologist as I assume the people that make these estimates are.
 
I know a guy that works for Exxon that does a similar job. He uses all kinds of crazy math and computer magic (assumption on my part) to determine the best way to maximize oil recovery from a field.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
 
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
 
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin


GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamentorDaveAuld23 Jan '13 - 9:07 
When I see them staring at wavy lines on the seismic plots i'm like Unsure | :~ WTF | :WTF: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused:
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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberColin Mullikin23 Jan '13 - 9:31 
DaveAuld wrote:
Unsure | :~ WTF | :WTF: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused: Confused | :confused:
That's how I feel after reading most Indian jokes...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
 
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
 
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin


GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamentorDaveAuld23 Jan '13 - 9:35 
Laugh | :laugh:
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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberRajesh R Subramanian23 Jan '13 - 18:04 
I've emailed you a joke. Smile | :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberColin Mullikin24 Jan '13 - 2:19 
Thanks! Laugh | :laugh: Laugh | :laugh:
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
 
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
 
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin


GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberBig Daddy Farang23 Jan '13 - 8:47 
It's a ballpark estimate. It's just that the ballpark is really, really big.
BDF
 
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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberMaximilien23 Jan '13 - 9:04 
or really small.
Nihil obstat

GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberRajesh R Subramanian23 Jan '13 - 18:06 
Big Daddy Farang wrote:
ballpark

A word used by numpties during corporate meetings. When they say it, I'd like to imagine that a ballpark size of their brain equals to a peanut. Laugh | :laugh:
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

GeneralRe: Oil in Australiamemberjschell23 Jan '13 - 9:03 
Colin Mullikin wrote:
WHAT?! If I made estimates like that, people would call me an idiot. What's the
point of an estimate if the upper bound is 6657% larger than the lower limit...?
D'Oh! | :doh:

 
I am guessing that you have never attended a sales/marketing presentation?
GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberColin Mullikin23 Jan '13 - 9:18 
Thankfully, no. Laugh | :laugh:
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
 
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
 
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin


GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberRajesh R Subramanian23 Jan '13 - 18:06 
I dare you to! Laugh | :laugh:
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliaprotectorPete O'Hanlon23 Jan '13 - 9:07 
It's known as the Facebook IPO calculation.

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GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliasubeditorWalt Fair, Jr.23 Jan '13 - 10:49 
I suspect that the author just picked some numbers out of some press release or something without having any idea what they mean. Reserve estimates have fairly well defined classifications and they mentioned no classifications at all in the article.
 
Basically there are estimates of hydrocarbons (HC) in place, as well as proved, developed, undeveloped, unproved, possible and probable reserve categories. The difference is whether one thinks there is a 10% chance of producing them and not a lot of corroborating information (a very high number!) or a 90% chance of producing them and a lot more information (a much more conservative estimate). Since many rock properties (i.e. permeability, fracture intensity) tend to have a log-normal distribution, there can be very long tails on the distribution of reserve estimates when properties are uncertain. For log-normal distributions it is fairly common to have a standard deviation that is larger than the mean value.
 
You can rest assured that the author of that article had no idea what parameters were being used or what they meant, or they would have mentioned them. However, it's much easier to baffle with bullsh*t rather than understand things.
CQ de W5ALT

Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software


GeneralRe: Oil in Australiamemberwizardzz23 Jan '13 - 8:59 
Do the Chinese own any of Australia's debts? If so, Australia might never see any of this.
GeneralRe: Oil in Australiamemberjschell23 Jan '13 - 9:02 
Might note that relying only on one company which sites their own estimates of their own resources can be a bit problematic.
GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliasubeditorWalt Fair, Jr.23 Jan '13 - 9:24 
Oil in place is not the problem. The US has enormous oil in place resources, as do most other countries. The problem is purely economic: getting it out at costs that people will pay, with environmental impact that people are willing to live with.
 
That appears to be one of those articles written by writers who know nothing about the subject they write about and are trying to make common knowledge seem exciting.
CQ de W5ALT

Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software


GeneralRe: Oil in AustraliamemberDeyan Georgiev23 Jan '13 - 9:32 
Big oil reserves leads to deindustrialization. For example, parts of Canada and most of Russia.
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