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GeneralRe: If you get offered a title change instead of raise, look into these:memberJimmyRopes28 Jan '13 - 13:50 
It is definitely time to get other employment. The new title could make you look better. Smile | :)

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GeneralRe: If you get offered a title change instead of raise, look into these:memberMark_Wallace27 Jan '13 - 19:58 
They don't give contact details for the teen exorcist Frown | :(
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GeneralAND FINALLY!memberBrisingr Aerowing27 Jan '13 - 8:52 
I was able to get the proxy from IIS -> Apache on my server to work! Big Grin | :-D
 
For those who wonder why I am doing this proxy, I have a RhodeCode instance being served by Apache with a custom build of mod_wsgi 3.4. Apache seems to dislike being accessed from the network, so I set up a proxy in IIS to redirect to the Apache instance.
 
The error I was getting was because IIS, by default, appends the TCP port of the client to the client's IP address, which causes all sorts of issues with a number of things. D'Oh! | :doh: Turning that off fixed the issue.
 
Now if the documentation mentioned that the port was appended by default, I would not have had to go through all of this.
 
So my message to the general group: MAKE SURE THE DOCUMENTATION IS USEFUL AND GOES OVER THE DEFAULT SETTINGS!!!

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GeneralYet another [insert object of choice] makes it to the outer reaches [modified]mentorDaveAuld27 Jan '13 - 5:01 
This time it is a Hello Kitty.
 
But that is not the point of the post, I get the distinct impression that in the UK schools, we do not do anything like this, or if we do, it is few and far between.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5REsCTG4-Gg[^]
 
I don't think I will get bored watching videos of folk sending stuff up to the outer reaches on weather balloons, the video views of the plant are just great!
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GeneralRe: Yet another [insert object of choice] makes it to the outer reachesmvpOriginalGriff27 Jan '13 - 5:23 
Probably, it is at least partly down to our crowded airspace.
"Within UK airspace, the operation of balloons and kites are subject to teh provisions and requirements set out at Articles 163 and 164 of the Air Navigation Order 2009 (which is contained in CAP 393). Amongst other things, these Articles provide that CAA permission is required to operate a tethered balloon or kite more than 60m above ground level (agl)." http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/DAP_PolicyStatementOperationOfTetheredBalloonsAndKites.pdf[^]
 
They also have strict provisions for untethered balloons, particularly if they start to reach decent altitudes.
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GeneralRe: Yet another [insert object of choice] makes it to the outer reachesmemberwizardzz27 Jan '13 - 11:14 
This is one of my favorite of these such videos. The acceleration when she released the balloon was quite intense. It's also good to see girls getting into science. Every time I see the views from 47k + feet, I go "oh, wow."
GeneralRe: Yet another [insert object of choice] makes it to the outer reachesmentorDaveAuld27 Jan '13 - 11:39 
I think it is one of the best views I have seen of the balloon bursting as well!
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GeneralRe: Yet another [insert object of choice] makes it to the outer reachesmemberwizardzz28 Jan '13 - 6:54 
Yes, that looked incredible, too. I've never seen it that clearly before either.
GeneralI must have got used to the "gesture typing" in AndroidmvpOriginalGriff27 Jan '13 - 3:53 
I just tried to use it on my desktop keyboard... D'Oh! | :doh:
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GeneralRe: I must have got used to the "gesture typing" in Androidmember ProgramFOX27 Jan '13 - 4:00 
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I just tried gesture typing on my desktop keybord (you can see the result above, I tried to write "I understand that it is not possible on a desktop keyboard" using gesture typing).
In some cases, my signature will be longer than my message...
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GeneralRe: I must have got used to the "gesture typing" in AndroidmvpOriginalGriff27 Jan '13 - 4:04 
Hurts your finger, too! Laugh | :laugh:
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GeneralRe: I must have got used to the "gesture typing" in AndroidmemberMark_Wallace27 Jan '13 - 22:23 
Had I a penny for each time I've tapped a button on the screen of my laptop...
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GeneralDoes computer science related people always depressed?memberValentine199327 Jan '13 - 2:48 
I don't feel living after i entered my college. It's the worst decision to study computer even i score very well.
GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?mvpOriginalGriff27 Jan '13 - 3:40 
Nope. I am a cheerful, carefree soul, and it takes quite a bit to get me down.
It's certainly not computing that does it (although it can be frustrating and bang-your-head-on-the-table annoying from time to time).
 
I suspect it's a change of scene, of people, and of (maybe) homesickness.
 
Try getting involved with people more: make friends and go for a drink with them or chat up girls - whatever floats your boat! Wink | ;)
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberToastedTOAD27 Jan '13 - 4:16 
It can be frustrating.
 
When I feel down, I try to fill my day with nothing but positive messages. Go watch an old Stooges movie, or whatever funny TV/Movie show you think will _make_you_want_to_laugh!
 
Creative people are genetically gifted & cursed. I always struggle to find balance. Understand that your creative high-energy periods will be balanced out with some period of blues.
 
Regarding your chosen field of study, my advice is to always pursue a field of study that you find interesting and challenging. You will spend your life doing whatever your chosen field is.
 
If you are in college, it's absolutely NORMAL to question life decisions. Your mind is chemically undergoing an important, and final adult stage of development -- reasoning.
 
For the record, I studied Finance & Creative Writing. Did not discover my passion, software, until after graduating and that was 32 years ago.
 
I code for joy and excitement.
GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberMark_Wallace27 Jan '13 - 20:27 
ToastedTOAD wrote:
I studied Finance & Creative Writing

Now there's a combination to conjure with. Who did you do the books for?
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?membergavindon28 Jan '13 - 5:41 
ToastedTOAD wrote:
I studied Finance & Creative Writing

wouldn't that have just been a degree in accounting? Big Grin | :-D
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?subeditorWalt Fair, Jr.27 Jan '13 - 5:01 
I can't speak for anyone else, but I would not stay in a career that caused me to be depressed!
 
Depression is not normal for any chosen career. If you are truly depressed, then please seek some help or chose to study something that doesn't depress you. A lifetime is way too long to live with depression!
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberMark_Wallace27 Jan '13 - 20:28 
I doubt it's the career that's causing the depression -- he hasn't started the career, yet.
 
It's just early-college blues. Friends need to be found.
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberRoger Wright27 Jan '13 - 7:51 
Being good at something doesn't mean that it's a good choice for a career. Even if you score well, you should seriously question your choice of study if you find yourself feeling depressed most of the time. You might also want to consult a professional to help you determine whether it's computer science that gets you down, or something completely unrelated. This is important for you to address quickly and decisively; depression is a serious illness, often entirely treatable, that can destroy lives if allowed to run unchecked.
 
I, for instance, am extremely good with numbers, and would do - have done - very well in Accounting functions. But I hate accounting, and wouldn't consider a career in that field. But it wouldn't make me depressed, either. I'd just find something about it to enjoy until I could find another position. I doubt very much that it's just computer science that's making you depressed...
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?protectorPete O'Hanlon27 Jan '13 - 9:21 
Being good with numbers isn't a prerequisite for accountancy. Haven't you seen Dalek Dave's posts?
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QuestionRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?mvpCPallini27 Jan '13 - 9:45 
Do you mean he is a good accountant? Roll eyes | :rolleyes:
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberRoger Wright27 Jan '13 - 10:09 
Good point, but what makes you assume that he's a good accountant? It sounds more to me as if he's more of the manager type, which as we all know, requires competence in absolutely nothing.
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?protectorPete O'Hanlon27 Jan '13 - 11:19 
I didn't say he was a good accountant. I just said accountant. Big Grin | :-D
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberRajesh R Subramanian27 Jan '13 - 18:32 
In fact, the term "good accountant" is an oxymoron. Smile | :)
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberJoe Woodbury27 Jan '13 - 7:59 
One thing that makes people depressed is when they persist at doing something in which they find no satisfaction. All too often, students choose a major based on promised income and/or job stability, not based on what they enjoy doing. This doesn't mean you just pick something you like since there are other factors to consider. You may love basket weaving, but if you also like not living in poverty, it isn't for you.
 
Instead of programming, perhaps you just like computers and technology, not engineering, and IT would be a better career choice.
 
My suggestion is to stick with a practical degree, even if it's not the most enjoyable, but take the time to take other, diverse classes and see if something really works for you.
 
Another thing to recognize is that programming classes are quite different than programming work. I detested most CS classes and thus didn't major in Computer Science. I still don't like most computer programming classes/seminars/conferences.
GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberH.Brydon27 Jan '13 - 10:11 
Valentine1993 wrote:
I don't feel living after i entered my college. It's the worst decision to study computer even i score very well.

 
I loved computer science in college, but I didn't score at all. I had more fun with the computers. Smile | :)
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberRavi Bhavnani27 Jan '13 - 10:24 
Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:
 
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberwizardzz27 Jan '13 - 11:23 
I feel like highly intelligent people often end up being quite depressed. What are your passions outside of CS? Sometimes finding a way to tie that in helps.
GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?member0bx27 Jan '13 - 13:12 
Being unhappy, or in a perpetual state of boredom is not a depression.
But I agree it can eventually become a depression.
 
But I don't know if intelligence has much to do with it.
It's being suggested a lot, but there's no real evidence that this is actually true.
 
I believe that's primarily because highly intelligent people are communicating their feelings more openly, as opposed to behaving more towards what's expected from their surroundings. That doesn't mean the latter is less sad than the first.
 
Highly intelligent people are also more likely to see a neurologist or psychiatrist, not because they have more mental problems but because the cultural taboo about mental health is a lot smaller in higher educated circles than in lower educated circles.
 
Finally, highly intelligent people are more likely to have jobs that deprives them from physical activity, which reduces the amount of serotonin secretion in the brain. That's a social phenomenon, not directly caused by having a more than average intelligence.
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberwizardzz27 Jan '13 - 15:37 
Are you familiar with Existential Depression?
GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?member0bx28 Jan '13 - 0:16 
Being frustrated by your own limitations and insignificance and constantly aware of a myriad of things that are going wrong, or have a high probability of going wrong? Yes, I'm quite familiar with it.
 
As the doctor would say: “The universe is big, its vast and complicated and ridiculous.”
 
But I believe it's something you can learn to cope with eventually.
 
My strategy is to forgive the stupidity of others as well as my own and try to focus on what I can do, rather than on what I can't. You don't need to make sense of it all, because you can't anyway.
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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberwizardzz28 Jan '13 - 4:14 
Your first sentence does not really illustrate your understanding. I also don't really get the intent of the rest of your response either.
 
I mentioned it because it is not something that typically effects the ignorant, which was the topic.
GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberJimmyRopes27 Jan '13 - 16:48 
yes

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GeneralRe: Does computer science related people always depressed?memberMark_Wallace27 Jan '13 - 20:34 
So you don't like school. Who did?
 
Get out and make friends (in the physical world, not on a computer), and keep up with your studies, because getting a redo for your education is very hard, so don't mess up the first try.
 
Things get better. And they get worse. And they get better. Etc. C'est la vie. Keep looking for things that make the day brighter.
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GeneralATWOTDmvpOriginalGriff26 Jan '13 - 22:34 
(Android Time Waster OTD) - it doesn't appear to be available for Chrome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.play.Jewels3&feature=nav_result[^]
It's free, it's a PITA when the time starts to run out on arcade mode, and it chews time with that "just one more quick go" factor. Once you suss out the bonuses on arcade mode, it's very addictive...don't say I didn't warn you!
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GeneralRe: ATWOTDprotectorPete O'Hanlon27 Jan '13 - 1:27 
I've been playing this, off and on, for the last month or so.
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GeneralI Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberRoger Wright26 Jan '13 - 14:45 
Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr....
 
It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... Frown | :(
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GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberMike Hankey26 Jan '13 - 15:40 
I am the same way with books I don't bend corners, write in them and all mine are in pristine condition.
I also hate to throw them out but I tried selling them at a $5 a piece, trade them at a two-for-one book store they didn't want them, give them away but no on wanted them so I tearfully took them to the road hoping someone would stop and pick them up - no dice. So the garbage man came and cussed me for having to pick a ton of books up off the ground and toss them.
 
What a waste! Frown | :(
And mine where a lot newer than the ones you're talking about. XML, ADO, etc.
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GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!subeditorWalt Fair, Jr.26 Jan '13 - 16:49 
I feel your pain, Roger. I hate to toss any books, no matter what the subject. Cry | :(( If I don't intend to read them, I don't buy them in the first place.
 
On the other hand, if I leave a stack of books lying around and tell my wife I don't have any need for them, they will magically disappear in short order. I suspect what she does with them, but for me it's painless and I can rationalize that it wasn't my fault. Wink | ;) Cool | :cool:
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GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberkrumia26 Jan '13 - 17:42 
Preserve them. When your grandsons become your age they can sell the books as antiques. They will be gold then.
GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberPIEBALDconsult26 Jan '13 - 19:17 
"... but we're coming up on year 10000 and we understand you know Cobol..."
GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberRoger Wright27 Jan '13 - 4:51 
Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."
Will Rogers never met me.

GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberjschell27 Jan '13 - 6:34 
Roger Wright wrote:
Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."

 
Errr...yes they do.
 
http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]
GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberRoger Wright27 Jan '13 - 8:59 
Okay, I suppose they sometimes do. But these won't in my lifetime, I have no space to store them. Off they go...
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GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberForogar27 Jan '13 - 9:28 
I suspect those books are only becoming valuable now because at the time of publishing they were fairly rare and are now obviously becoming even rarer. My old programming books (yes, also in pristine condition) are/were fairly common and there is such a broad range of them and with multiple reprints and editions will probably not become sufficiently rare until at least the 4th millennium - at which point the paper will have degraded to dust and the cost of storage will far exceed their value - never mind the cost of shipping them to my cybernetic mind/body/home in orbit around Mars/Saturn/[insert planet/moon of choice here].
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GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberRob Grainger27 Jan '13 - 23:12 
Much more recently, I submit: A Theory of Objects[^]
 
I'd quite like a copy, but...
GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!mvpOriginalGriff26 Jan '13 - 22:08 
I know what you mean. I had a complete set of the documentation for Visual C++ version 1 (incl. MFC)
It took about two feet of shelf space, weighed a ton, and I hadn't opened it in ten years.
Couldn't sell it, even on eBay (thanks to the shipping costs, books aren't easy to shift on eBay). Couldn't give it away. So the lot went to the tip.
Sad. But necessary. Bite the bullet! Fill the car while drunk and cover them with a blanket so you can't see them when sober. Then drive to the tip and do it...
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GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberCDP180226 Jan '13 - 22:24 
Same here. It has become a small library for itself, with a two rows of books specialized on computer graphics. My best excuse for keeping them is that I also still have all the old computers.
 
With the computers I have the same problem. I never was much of a collector. Most old computers are the ones I used myself long ago. When I had to move, I had to get rid of my old Pentium II and Pentium III machines, both still working perfectly.
GeneralRe: I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!memberPHS24126 Jan '13 - 23:35 
I clear mine out if I've not opened them in a couple of years. Me and the missus durr'n like clutter. I don't know how much money I've wasted on books I never opened keeping up with changes in development I'll never work on.
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