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PHS241 wrote:
I've increasingly noticed that MVC is almost mandatory for many jobs.

No, it's mandatory for the vacancy-description. Seen it often enough, "Should have knowledge of design patterns, MVC and MVP". I usually reply that it's a redundant statement, and that the latter two are already covered by the request for knowledge on patterns.

PHS241 wrote:
For sure, I could never go to interviews claiming I know it.

So don't make that claim. If you're already programming, then learning the pattern would take, what, two, three nights? If someone says that you're not fit for the job because you don't know something that can be learnt in hours, then thank the bloke and be glad with your freedom.

PHS241 wrote:
There are so many concepts and technologies that it's tricky to be a master at all of them. Opinions?

Unless one is very gifted, becoming a master in all areas is impossible. Programmers are usually very good at learning new things. Probably because it's part of the job; if it were deterministic, we'd be replaced by machines.

..and yes, some people actually believe that one has to learn the entire documentation on MSDN by heart before you start programming. It'd be more valuable if you train in solving problems (write your own Open Source package, you'll run into them within no-time), in debugging, using the SQL profiler (how often do you see that in a job-description?)
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GeneralJust did a code test. Pin
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