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GeneralUsers Are Evil Pin
MehGerbil22-Apr-13 3:16
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You can literally sit in a meeting with a user, look her in the eye and say, "I need a copy of this file as it comes from the bank - DO NOT EDIT IT" and she'll shake her head as if to indicate understanding.

The user will then:
1: Download the bank file.
2: Open the comma delimited file in Notepad.
3: Do a find/replace on a few broken values.
4: Save the file.
5: Open it in Excel and change the column order.
6: Delete several rows that are 'gibberish'.
7: Add a few rows that have to be there for it to work properly.
8: Export the file as tab delimited.
9: Attach it to an email with the following message in the body: "This is the file I received from the bank".

I had a developer in my office this morning pulling her hair out over this issue because after 6 months of development we are only now getting the actual bank file. Of course, the new file is easy enough to import but the changes the user was making masked a few problem areas that need to now be addressed.

The people who know the least about a process are your users.
You'd do better to ask a random stranger.

I know my boss has always been critical of my methods but when I go to create a system I usually don't even look at the system I'm replacing or any of it's documentation because that confusing nest of lies will only add 50% to the development time. The reality is that user authored documentation is at best a wild guess and most likely intentional corporate sabotage authored by a demon possessed sadists.
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