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GeneralSometimes It Pays To Snivel PinmemberRoger Wright16-Jan-14 17:04 
Back in October, I completed a(nother) gun safety course online while attending a course in Las Vegas on designing electrical distribution power lines. Yes - I multi-task, and I won a bit in poker while I was there, too.
 
Anyway, having passed that trivial class, I printed the certificate, spent a couple hours at the local jail watching a deputy try over and over again to get a decent set of fingerprints on a card for me (they really should train these guys a little), then sent the whole mess with my application to the Arizona Department of Public Safety to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Arizona is a "must issue" state, that is, unless they can find a legal reason to deny a permit, they are required to issue it. There are a number of things that are legitimate reasons for denial, but I've committed none of them in my life. The law allows them 60 working days for the background check, then 15 days to either issue or deny a permit, and a denial is allowed to be appealed.
 
Since tomorrow (Friday) is, by my count, the 60th working day and I've heard nothing, I was getting nervous last weekend. Most people I know who have permits got them in 3 weeks, as I did twenty years ago when I got my first one. So I called last Friday about it, and was told that my application had been pulled for additional background checks, and that I should call back in two months! WTF | :WTF:
 
On the weekend I did some checking and discovered that nowhere in the statutes are they given any right to delay approval or extend the background checking period, so I emailed them and challenged this bull. Okay, writing to the State Police and threatening them with prosecution is probably not the smartest thing to do, but it was late on a Saturday night, and there might have been some liquid courage involved, and email is a medium which confers false security for some. Needless to say, I fully expected to be arrested and carried off in chains from work on Monday, never to be seen again. Instead, nothing happened.Suspicious | :suss:
 
Much to my surprise, yesterday I found an email reply from AZ DPS that said, "Your background check is approved. The permit will be printed and mailed tomorrow, Jan 16."
 
Others I know are still being stonewalled, and they're being told that the backlog extends to applications received clear back into July 2013. Should I suggest to them to try the email route, or just let them figure out their own way? Roll eyes | :rolleyes:
Will Rogers never met me.

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