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Kyudos26-May-14 14:10
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I don't have anything new to complain about, but the Office ribbon control is just pissing me off at the moment. I've tried to get used to it, but I only find it 'OK' when I don't actually have to use it.
It tries to be both a menu and a toolbar, but fails at both. I haven't found a single use-case where it is easier to use than menus and toolbars.

Obviously, I not looking at it as a newbie user, but as a computer professional, but does anyone actually like the thing, rather than just tolerating it?

Specific points:

* Being able to customize and add new toolbars and have all of those commands visible and available at once is a massive productivity boost that has disappeared.
* Being forced to constantly flip between ribbon tabs. Even when you do (rarely) know where something is, it's usually on another tab. As of 2010 we can 'fix' this by customising to some extent, but it would be easier if I could just see everything at the same time (see above), without having to create my own interface! I assume this is OK for that class of user that used to use the mouse and menus for everything, but it doesn't like keyboardists or toolbar users much.
* No way to logically consume functional content, without a proper menu. This is the old 'I can't find it' problem - but I could eventually locate anything through the hierarchical menus. I don't seem to be able to twig MS's system for ribbon organisation. Several times I have literally been unable to discover where a function was using the ribbon and had to Google it. And then you find that the function might not even be on the ribbon in the first place.
* No proper translation for old add-in toolbars to the ribbon. This means that if an add-in isn't ribbon aware, I can't reorganise its functions on the ribbon, they are just dumped on the 'Add-Ins' tab and can't be moved.
* At least for me, the combination of icons and text is not easy to consume in the jumbled ribbon. Icons on menus in a fixed location relative to text, easy to scan - multiple icon sizes with varying text locations - hard to scan. I can't be alone in this one? I always turn off text on toolbars, if it is possible, precisely because mixing menus with the top level of a toolbar doesn't quite work.

So MS, what exactly is so good about it? I've seen some users say 'I like it', but I've never seen them expand as to why it is functionally better than what it replaced.

Nothing new here! Move along!
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