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but surely if you believe this you have the facts - you are contemptious to other that fail to bring evidence yet materially fail yourself, you claim to be busy but have sufficient time to troll obscure sites looking for any snippit that supports your ravings, I have, I admit a lot to learn, the problem is that the evidence you do bring is either
a/ just plain wrong ie B17 and cancer cures
b/ misleading - like fluoride and mercury
c/ opinion with no evidence to support it
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d/ opinion with a small minority support
whilst a and b are your usual posts, c does occasionally crop up and you then go into your usual trick of demanding evidence against you, despite providing none in support.
or d, when it pops up you treat any disagreement the way religion does, you decry it as the top of your voice and refuse to read any counter argument, often insultingly
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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Alex hogarth wrote: a/ just plain wrong ie B17 and cancer cures
I don't know anything about b17, I didn't modify the original article, and quite frankly its piddly compared to the real meat and potatoes.
Alex hogarth wrote: b/ misleading - like fluoride and mercury
Mercury is a nerotoxin, and fluoride isn't good for you to ingest at all. Plain and simple.
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but thats a majour part of one of the paragraphs, it its so badly wrong that a 3 second google can disprove it why should anybody take any of the article seriously?
and its not the only point, the whole article is comprised of oppinions dressed as facts
mercury in small doses can be a very effective cure for certain diseases so this idea that a single comment from you makes substance dangerous is a sure sign that yor are either deluded or malicious
warfarin was developed as a rat poison yet has saved coutless lives since, by your argument it should be banned and the users left to die "because its a poison"
fluoride is the same in small doses it is benifitial, you have yet to provide any evidence of your claims and there is edvidence that despite the prolonged use in many countries the cancer it causes has actually been reducing in the population.
red meat isnt "good" for you to ingest, in fact there is more evidence that red meat has caused more deaths due to cancer than fluoride has. (oh and potatoes too are you aware that the green on potatoes are a neuro toxin?) in fact the meat and potatoes are far bigger threat to health than the fluoride
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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Alex hogarth wrote: mercury in small doses can be a very effective cure for certain diseases so this idea that a single comment from you makes substance dangerous is a sure sign that yor are either deluded or malicious
Proof? Is that why its put in almost every single vaccine? You are a f***ing moron.
Alex hogarth wrote: fluoride is the same in small doses it is benifitial,
That is why its dumped into the water supply then? You are braindead.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote: Proof? Is that why its put in almost every single vaccine? You are a f***ing moron.
no, firstly it isnt, secondy its used as a preservative or an inactivation element
http://www.immunisation.nhs.uk/Library/News/Mercury_thiomersal_and_Vaccines_Statement_16_01_03[^]
thirdly no it you that is the moron, you take a fact think it means something it doesnt an that somehow this is being done to attack you and your way of life, sorry to inform you it would be simpler and easier just to make you disapear.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: That is why its dumped into the water supply then? You are braindead.
yes thats exactly why its put in the water - to improve your teeth
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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Amusingly, he insisted I answer his points ( although that's redundant, he makes the claim, the onus of proof is on him ). So, I answered and then he realised he had nothing, so he insisted we talk about the fed instead. I refused unless he followed through and discussed the things he raised and asked me to. He ran like a little girl.
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It's strictly take-away, mind you. I'm not going near it!
I set a live-trap, hoping to catch one of the raccoons. There is a skunk in the trap ... and I live in the middle of a city of 50,000. I hate the idea of causing an animal to suffer, but it's just going to have to die before I'll go near the trap.
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a**hole.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Tim Craig wrote: a**hole.
D*mned i*iot. What don't you rescue it.
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If I was close, I would, you dumb f***ing redneck a**hole.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Tim Craig wrote: you dumb f***ing redneck a**hole.
So, since you so obviously different that me, I guess you must be a sophisticated city slicker asswipe?
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Even when I was a partially educated hick living in Ohio, I knew how to treat animals. In fact, I had a pet skunk. All I did was grow up and get away from knuckle draggers like you. Call Animal Control or something since you seem to live in a f***ing city, s***head.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Ah, so you *are* a sophisticated city slicker asswipe!
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Surely there is an animal welfare group close by, possibly PETA, they could be relatives.
Get a nose filter, gas mask or something. There is a special place reserved in hell for people who allow animals to starve to death.
[edit] Oh, hang on you live in a gun culture, put the dammed gun to use, shoot the poor bloody thing.[/edit]
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: [edit] Oh, hang on you live in a gun culture, put the dammed gun to use, shoot the poor bloody thing.[/edit]
I live *in* the city.
And PETA doesn't give a damned about actual animals.
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Ilion, I've mostly refrained from making any personal attacks, but allowing an animal, yes even a skunk, starve to death because you are too concerned for you sense of smell puts you in the class of truly selfish bastards. As has been said, you set the trap, take responsibility for your actions, deal with the consequences.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Ilion, I've mostly refrained from making any personal attacks ....
So I've mostly noticed. 
Mycroft Holmes wrote: ... but allowing an animal, yes even a skunk, starve to death because you are too concerned for you sense of smell puts you in the class of truly selfish bastards.
Do you have any idea what in the hell you're talking about?
Mycroft Holmes wrote: As has been said, you set the trap, take responsibility for your actions, deal with the consequences.
I set the trap for raccoons. And even if I *had* let the skunk die slowly, I was not denying anything.
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: shoot the poor bloody thing
I was present once when a farmer shot a skunk. Wow, did that turn out to be the wrong answer.  Nobody could stand to get within 50 yards of it for several days.
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To trap an animal and then let it starve to death because you are too afraid or lazy or stupid to do something about it is despicable.
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I did shoot this thing the next morning. Withing minutes, the whole house was engulfed with the stench, which remained almost unbearable for several hours, into the afternoon. And, even the next day, I could still smell it (and, at the basement door, where the skunk was, the stench was strong for days).
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Do vets not do call-outs? It seems very cruel (perhaps unnecessarily so; I don't know your reasons) to allow an animal to die in such a slow and painful way.
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Computafreak wrote: Do vets not do call-outs? It seems very cruel (perhaps unnecessarily so; I don't know your reasons) to allow an animal to die in such a slow and painful way.
I'll just bet you didn't have a big problem with humans causing Terri Schiavo die in just the same way.
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As a matter of fact, I did. There are recorded cases of people coming out of PVS; Terri Schiavo could have done the same. There's always a chance. But either way, it still seems inhumane to let a skunk starve to death in a trap, in pain.
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Computafreak wrote: As a matter of fact, I did.
I'm glad to know that.
Computafreak wrote: ... it still seems inhumane to let a skunk starve to death in a trap, in pain.
I'm not a bunny-hugger; I care about human beings, not so much about animals. I don't *like* what I'm doing, but I'm not going near that thing.
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Ilíon wrote: I don't *like* what I'm doing, but I'm not going near that thing
Then I second the "a**hole" comment. Call your local SPA - you caught it, you have a responsibility for it's welfare, whether you like it or not.
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