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ed welch wrote: That stuff is not c++.ox
The support for Win7 controls is not C++0x. Move semantics, regexp, hash libraries, etc are.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: In fact, I may even get ViEmu
Ah, so you're contemplating returning to the IDE dark side Nemanja? 
Kevin
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: Ah, so you're contemplating returning to the IDE dark side Nemanja?
Yep I have heard rumors that the new IDE would be able to track code even without a "solution" (just ike SourceInsight) and debugging is already pretty decent, so the only missing thing is a good code editor.
Of course, it is still way too slow and bloated for my taste, but my employer has provided me with ridiculously powerful dev machines, so I'll swallow that.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: to track code even without a "solution"
Really! Any more info on that?
I have not been able to install RTM because RC does not uninstall yet.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote: Really! Any more info on that?
As I said, it is just a rumor I heard. Didn't try it yet.
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FIRST COMMENT FROM YOUR REFERENCE LINK:
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:10 AM by jps
# re: Visual Studio 2010 is Now Available
I expected not to have Intellisense for my C++/CLI files (cf. tirade launched against Boris by many)
but... in RTM it seems that Intellisense does not work for ANY C++ file (regardless of /clr setting) IF there is a /clr file used in the project.
This was not the case in the beta I tested and adds insult to injury.
Doh !
/xml> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
| "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
| "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek dissappointment. If you are searching for perfection in yourself, then you seek failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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That's C++/CLI, not C++. If you care for C++/CLI, that's your fault, sorry
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Shucks.
I didn't realize all I had to do is only be interested in the right stuff and all would be well.
My bad . . .
/xml> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
| "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
| "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek dissappointment. If you are searching for perfection in yourself, then you seek failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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...even after RTM.
Well, that's what I hope for.
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Don[^] meet peterchen; peterchen, this is Don[^].
Software Zen: delete this;
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Can I trade Sancho for a little Sanchita?
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Ah, but what of the lovely Dulcinea[^] you cad!
Software Zen: delete this;
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One to love and one for the road 
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That would be lovely. There are enough bug reports on the MS Connect site for VS2010 SP1.
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Terry Leeper said they're already working on SP1 to include all the things that they've missed to include in release.
But he was very reserved to say anything more on this topic 
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That would be awesome. Can only hope it is released soon.
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Just a thought--I typically don't rely or expect the tool to improve anything about my "work process." That usually is something that involves myself and other people in considering how to get the work done better rather than the tool. Cliche as it may be, it really is about people, not tools.
In other words, once a tool reaches a certain level of capability, improving the features of the tool is relatively insignificant compared to improving the processes of the people using the tool.
Marc
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Improvements in the tool can create improvements in the process.
Just think: If Visual Studio 2010 crashes once a week per developer (as opposed to 2-3 times a day), guess how much less time will be spent around the water cooler bitching about it, resulting in more time developing!
Nah.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: guess how much less time will be spent around the water cooler bitching about it
People always find something to bitch about.  My favorite is "all she ever does is complain!!!"
Marc
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Hence the 'nah'.
Marc Clifton wrote: My favorite is "all she ever does is complain!!!"
Software Zen: delete this;
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Stability isn't a feature.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Stability isn't a feature.
If it was, then I'm sure you'd only find it in the Ultimate Edition. 
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Stability isn't a feature
That's wright. It's a BUG! 
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This from a tool author :p
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: This from a tool author :p
Touche! 
Marc
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