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*grin* yes, so true.
Christian Graus
Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I wish political adds did not attack the other side. Why can they not tell use what and how they are going to do whatever if they are elected?
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Because if they did that you might hold them to it
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Yep, the Romney advertisements saying what he will do are so unbelievable that you do not consider them as facts.
Got to thinking today about the enormity of the national debt and dividing by the number of people in the USA.
Then you have politicians who say they want to reduce it but they end up adding to it.
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djj55 wrote: Yep, the Romney advertisements saying what he will do are so unbelievable that you do not consider them as facts.
Current ones obviously are not fact. He is claiming that he personally will take actions which only congress can do.
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In a 2 party system that is the easiest way to get elected. The reason being is you are forced to choose the lesser of 2 evils (in your opinion). Of which neither made any contractual obligation upon getting elected.
Note however canidates often have contractual obligations to their political party or their campaign contributors (lobbiests). It has been this way for a while now and frankly I think most of the voters are sick of it.
The difference is now we have a voice. Not we do not need mainstream media as we build up our own social networks.
Now its about making the right message go viral at just the right time.
Take a look at the Freedom Contract Party.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Amen. Wouldn't it be great to have integrity in politics?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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He seems eerily familiar. Any theories on his identity?
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My Guess (and Original Griff's) is Captain See Sharp. The Subject matter is right, but the tactics have changed slightly. Someone else has guessed Illion. Whoever he is, he knows the ropes too well for a newbie.
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may be it is one of those two but maybe the therapy is starting to work
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I am getting around ten plus calls a day from candidates, mostly Romney telling me how bad others are. I cannot wait for Wednesday!
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Its not silence its the sound of one had clapping hummmmmmmm
ps dont know who Romny is and dont care
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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God I hate kendel mint cake
now grasmere gingerbread mmm now thats a different matter
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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And the real campaign hasn't even started yet.
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Well the president is campaigning.
I say again I wish they could take politics out of politics!
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So happy I don't have a land line anymore. I never get those calls on my cell phone.
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Welcome to the void.
I actually got one call on my cell.
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Sometimes people wonder why the rest of the world says "stupid Americunts". The title should provide some clue as to why.
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LMAO!
Ouch.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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"where political and social issues, including American politics and global warming, can be discussed in a reasonably civil manner. ...but this forum does not tolerate trolling posts, or posters who wish to be disagreeable. Those who choose to become uncivil, insulting, or childish will be warned and, for repeated violations, removed from membership."
So someone thinks that people can discuss politics and social issues and still meet the above guidelines?
LOL.
The only way that will happen is if no one is passionate or alternatively if someone 'moderates' it into a rah-rah group of a specific leaning.
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Apparently SB1 has gone the way of the Dodo. Vigorous debate was it's downfall.
The Left - Taking sh*t for being right since before you were born. - driftglass
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Majerus wrote: Vigorous debate was it's downfall
Not quite. There was an unfortunate "alleged trolling" post made yesterday. This caused the SB1.0 administrator to give up and request CP to shut the forum. However, there is, of course, the possible chance that Chris Maunder may allow the SB1.0 to be resurrected if enough (former) SB1.0 members request him to do so.
So, if you would like the SB1.0 to be once again a functioning forum, the former members need to decide who shall administer that forum and write to Chris Maunder with requests to re-open it.
That said, SB1.0 was a private members social forum, and as far as I am aware, private members social forums may be created at CP at any time.
So, those interested in resurrecting SB1.0, please indicate so by reply to this message.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote: There was an unfortunate "alleged trolling" post made yesterday.
By me, about something Rob didn't like. His criterion for 'trolling'.
He needs a dictionary.
Richard A. Abbott wrote: This caused the SB1.0 administrator to give up
It didn't cause him to give up: he was sitting there unblinkingly, his finger shakily hovering over the self-destruct button, just itching for a scapegoat to blame for closing the forum down.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
So, those interested in resurrecting SB1.0, please indicate so by reply to this message.
Sure.
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Maybe he doesnt like gays? 
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Nothing to say.
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I'd think it would be great to have the forum back. But it would have to be moderated by someone who wanted to keep it open. I warned Rob that he was setting himself up for failure. I just didn't realize that was his goal.
Might want to pose this question in the soapbox to get more views.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
modified 13 Feb '12 - 10:27.
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But then, as this forum (The Back Room) is out of sight from the main CP site, just like the SB1.0 was out of sight, should we just use this very forum instead of trying to resurrect SB1.0 ????
Majerus wrote: Might want to pose this question in the soapbox to get more views.
I don't often visit "next door". But am happy to pose such a question, unless you beat me to it
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It is also "unmoderated", other than by the ownership.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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On the admin page for SB1.0 does there exist option to cancel the "Shut Down" instruction?
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It's a checkbox...labeled "close group". I reached it by using the "edit group" icon that appeared as a white rectangle above the post region on the left.
I presume Jon was able to fix things, since i am no longer a member of that social group, and I had not ejected myself, just "retired" as admin. That seems to have changed since I replied to Jon's email.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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Richard A. Abbott wrote: should we just use this very forum instead of trying to resurrect SB1.0
That might not be a bad idea. One problem with SB1 is a lack of membership.
Richard A. Abbott wrote: But am happy to pose such a question,
I'll let you. I don't have management's ear, so you might be in a better position to present a case once others give their input.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Majerus wrote: That might not be a bad idea
The original soapbox forum for CP was this very forum and was called "The Soapbox". It got shut down for a while due to some unsavoury behaviour by certain persons (no names mentioned).
Majerus wrote: One problem with SB1 is a lack of membership
That was "by design". To restrict membership based on certain criteria.
Majerus wrote: I don't have management's ear
Ditto
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Richard A. Abbott wrote: That was "by design".
Right. I recognize the benefits, but the downside is that no new members were recruited, while many naturally drifted away - or in some cases driven away or banned. Not making a judgement on that, but it left the forum with a small number of regular posters.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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That was not my goal.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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How quickly you decided to shut it down left me with a different impression, but I believe you.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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Rob Graham wrote: That was not my goal.
You could have left without shutting it down if you didn't like it any more, yet you didn't.
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You miss the point. Jon and I agreed to maintain a reasonable level of acceptability as a condition for creating the forum for us. Chris went a step further and made social forums a feature, but that did not relieve either of us from insuring no posts would bring discredit to CP. It was never an issue of what I liked or didn't like. I'm actually pretty tolerant of a wide range of opinion, for an Oakman Lite.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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Let Ravel moderate the forum.
Who cares who moderates it, it isnt so important just so long as there is a place where anything can be discussed without beingv censored like the rest of the very boring CP web site.
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Nothing to say.
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Nothing I can do about it. I threw my keys on the seat and closed the locked car door, so to speak. Any changes that need to be made to SB1 would have to be by either Oakman (he remains admin, and is still enabled) or by Chris.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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OK. I will have a chat with Jon later on and ask him to re-visit the SB1.0 forum and ask him if he would either resurrect the forum using his Admin rights or to appoint myself as temporary admin to enable me to re-open the forum.
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Sounds Like a plan. He will need to edit the forum from his old personal account, I think.
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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I gather things worked out, since I am not a member of SB1 since a a relatively short while ago (since replying to Jon's email).
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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At the moment, no change. However, Jon has offered to email Chris Maunder requesting to make me Administrator, but, as I said, nothing to report just yet. I will update this message in the morning if anything to report.
Cheers Rob, and of course Jon, for your help.
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Sorry I closed it son thoroughly. If you wish, I will also email Chris...
"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer
"The failure mode of 'clever' is 'a**hole'" John Scalzi
"Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson
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