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Chris Maunder wrote: Thanks for the giving us the benefit of the doubt[^].
I thought that was my job. 
...tough crowd. Have a beer.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm cancelling our account with the anti-spam service with which we
contracted.
Why would you need an anti-spam service at all? Any spam that gets posted gets voted down into auto-deletion within minutes of appearing on the site. I don't see how a spam service would improve on this.
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Nish Sivakumar wrote: Any spam that gets posted gets voted down into auto-deletion within minutes of appearing on the site
No it doesn't. A lot of it does. A lot of it doesn't. Further, is it really that motivating to slap down the same spam day after day after day? I don't think it is.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Perhaps you could "flag" messages as possible spam, and let users of sufficient reputation mark it as spam or not. If nobody marks it as spam or not within 3 hours, then automatically delete it. If a user posts 3 spam messages in one day, delete their account. Here is a message you could display for these flagged messages:
This message has been automatically marked as spam. Do you think it is spam?
[Yes, Delete This Spam!] [No, It's A Valid Post]
Perhaps display that control just above the message (similar to how the signature is below the message) and highlight the post in some way so that people know to open it and attend to it quickly.
Also, I can see a new user posting a perfectly valid message in an old article, only to have their message marked as spam and deleted before anybody marks it as valid. In that case, allow that user to see a button that says "Request message be recovered" and deal with that however you like (e.g., email you so you can undelete it, or automatically post a message to some forum where members can take action to undelete it). You'd probably also want to email the user to let them know that their message was deleted, so they know to request it be recovered.
Another idea if the 3 hours doesn't work for every forum. Maybe each forum gets a different value. Perhaps articles get 24 hours, the Lounge gets 1 hour, and the C# forum gets 4 hours (and so on).
Also, if you find some users are abusing the system, delete or suspend their accounts.
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I like the idea except for the automatically delete a post after x-hours.
In my opinion it's better to have one spam message to remain visible than to delete a valid message.
If the message your deleting is a valid one it takes another action from the user to get it back (and from a moderator) seems like a lot of work / frustration.
If one spam message remains there isn't that much harm done and it will probably eventually be deleted.
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I'm on holiday at the moment Chris, so I'm typing this on my phone. I have a couple of ideas here that relate to the article I'm writing. I will mock up a wireframe for you to see next week. Hopefully it will help but it relates to flagging all possible spam messages in a similar way to showing the notifications. Then the community can decide whether or not they are spam.
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I think that you and your team are doing a fine job at keeping the site and the general morale at an even level. Spam is always going to be with us. Obviously, finding the best solution is the challenge.
Anyhow, keep up the good fight. You guys are doing great.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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Chris Losinger wrote:
(and it looks like this comment itself was instant down-voted, too)
In my case it was a double-blow. My post got 1-voted and my profile got de-activated. I've linked to my CodeProject profile page in multipe places as a single point link to all my CP articles. Now anyone clicking that profile link will just see a message saying that my account is deactivated. I think this is quite extreme. The post that caused all this contained a regular news-article link, and I can't imagine why that one link would result in such an extreme action. 
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It was, then was reinstated after an update. I've re-nuked it and physically disabled the code.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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wizardzz wrote: You owe to your members, who, maybe you forgot, are the ones that provide your site with content.
...
Articles 0 (Debut)
Hmm, entitled much?
There was a problem with the site - you reported it, and it's been fixed. I'm sure it was annoying, but do you need to start getting out torches, pitchforks, and rent-a-mob?
Iain.
ps, You do appear to be a busy c# beaver, if not an article writer.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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What's with the ps statement and quoting my article count? The only content on the site is articles?
I've been active for only 1.5 years and have 5k in authority points and 179 answers in QA. Does that qualify me to criticize the site? Have I provided no meaningful content?
Do I feel entitled, hmm... Let me ask you, do your 7 articles make you feel entitled much?
Are you going to attack the credentials of anyone that complains? Zac did it after me. Are you going to pull sh*t out of his profile for a very weak point?http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4323625/Re-Instant-downvote.aspx[^]
[removed vulgar personal attack]
modified 3-Aug-12 21:47pm.
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Hello,
I've entered the reputation history page and I've noticed that there are a predefined number of rows there and they can't be changed.
After doing any other pending thing you could have, and of course, if you think that could be a nice thing to do...
Keep up the good great work! 
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There seem to be some rather misplaced votes hitting the lounge. Both DD and I have been voted down [-16] for extremely innocuous messages.
I'm not normally one to fret over this but it looks very suspicious; spiteful even.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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And will all these downvotes be reversed?
Oh look, you are no longer getting autodownvoted, and yet I am!
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
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Looking at this reply by Chris[^] it seems like the CCC Link in your sig may be the cause for flagging the message as spam by the new (I think soon-to-be old) anti-spam system.
2A
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I shall amend!
EDIT: You are right!
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link suspended until further notice.
It can be reached at www.greystarling.co.uk/ccc.htm
This is due to the Spam Cockup.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: spiteful even.
Welcome to my world.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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Allegedly if you have lots of links in your post then you are a spambot moider droid.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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The first column (date/time) needs a whisker more width. "24 Jul 2012 10:50 PM" wraps.
FF 14, Chrome 20. (not a scoreline!)
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Peter_in_2780 wrote: FF 14, Chrome 20
Which quarter?
(Oh, and I'll fix)
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Which quarter?
Latin? French?
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I can't replicate the date wrapping. I even have a "nowrap" directive on the style that should stop this. Tested in FF14, Chrome 20 (Second quarter, semi final round)
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Weird. All good now. FF, I cleared cache which might have updated CSS. Chrome, "virgin" copy on a different machine, now works.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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