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Re: The future becomes a little cooler; Microsoft Research wants to charge your phone with lasers newton.saber19-Jan-15 8:39 newton.saber 19-Jan-15 8:39  Kent Sharkey wrote: Microsoft Research wants to charge your phone with lasers This will work well for me, because I can shoot lasers out of my eyes. It tooks years of practice and lots of headaches. Re: The future becomes a little cooler; Microsoft Research wants to charge your phone with lasers Dan Neely20-Jan-15 2:52 Dan Neely 20-Jan-15 2:52  Unless I start wearing transparent pants (a thought on par with Sean's mankini) that's not going to help much...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt What’s holding back the Internet of things? Kent Sharkey18-Jan-15 11:23 Kent Sharkey 18-Jan-15 11:23  VentureBeat[^]: The tech world is abuzz with interesting possibilities for the Internet of Things (IoT) lately, but regular folks haven’t caught up yet. Why the enthusiasm gap? Oh, you know. Things. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? PIEBALDconsult18-Jan-15 11:54 PIEBALDconsult 18-Jan-15 11:54  Maybe because no one asked for it? Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? Kent Sharkey18-Jan-15 11:57 Kent Sharkey 18-Jan-15 11:57  You didn't ask for your fridge to communicate directly with all local grocery stores? Luddite. I know people have posted in other threads that IoT makes sense for industrial (non-consumer) scenarios, but we've always had that. We just called it embedded computing. TTFN - Kent Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? PIEBALDconsult18-Jan-15 12:02 PIEBALDconsult 18-Jan-15 12:02  Kent Sharkey wrote: your fridge Came with the apartment. And it's pretty old; it ought to call the dump to be hauled away. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? AndersonChau18-Jan-15 15:28 AndersonChau 18-Jan-15 15:28  [1] Improvement to quality of life is too marginal [2] It is not a norm that manufacturers of home appliances expose the control interface through Wifi/Bluetooth/Zigbee/ZWave [3] Security is also an issue. The kid next door may be adding too much sugar to your coffee. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? Eddy Vluggen18-Jan-15 22:30 Eddy Vluggen 18-Jan-15 22:30  Reality. If you are to buy a new appliance, would you pay $100 more for some feature that requires compatibility with all some other appliances? Show me a use-case where I would want to spend the money. Bastard Programmer from Hell If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? den2k8819-Jan-15 0:28 den2k88 19-Jan-15 0:28  For me there are different reasons. 1) Not all of us are in America. By this I mean that many nations don't have widespread broadband Internet access, for example in order to have an Internet connection where I live it took me 8 years - I got the connection in 2014. Before I had to use GB-limited HSDPA pendrives, which were limited to GPRS speed due to low area coverage. Imagine a house connected at 20 kbps... 2) Privacy. Maybe, I say maybe, I would like to be one of the few to know what's in my fridge. I'm not braindead enough to not know how to take care of my groceries. And why should I have a connected laundry-washer? It just doesn't make sense. On this matter I recently bought a high-end BlueRay player and it automatically connects to my wifi - at least, it tries, since I removed the connection parameters. I decide when and how it should connect. 3) Usefulness. They have none. Maybe the connected air-conditioner can be useful, but not enough to have security issues and spending good money on it. Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? Smart K819-Jan-15 4:58 Smart K8 19-Jan-15 4:58  I would prefer things ("hardware") with ability to run some of universal script, and also open API on what it can do (with library included). It would have some default options (factory settings) available for people who like it as it is. But it might be moddable by Internet modders (or me.. programmer) to create all kinds of crazy things. Like to turn on lights when clocks turn certain time in the morning and also start coffee machine if some conditions are fulfilled. Programmable open hardware. These preprogrammed one function (or choice of few usually completely useless or boring) supposedly "smart" things are not for me. I want to program (and debug) my home completely. It would be so much fun.. .. for me at least. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? Ron Anders19-Jan-15 8:23 Ron Anders 19-Jan-15 8:23  Me I don't like it So you can't have it. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? Paul M Watt19-Jan-15 9:17 Paul M Watt 19-Jan-15 9:17  That's a trick question, because it's already here. The only thing is it's not "The Unified Internet of Interoperable and Artificially Intelligent Things" (UIoIaAIT) -New Orleans uses a small mesh network to create a private network to administer and monitor their traffic cams. -All of the integrated Smart Homes. -Amazon.coms automated robot order fulfillment factories. The most successful application has been as the Intranet of Things. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? clientSurfer19-Jan-15 21:04 clientSurfer 19-Jan-15 21:04  Listen schoolers and newbs alike, I've got 36 years of experience working with computers (since the Heathkit) and here's what my equally geeky girlfriend and I can tell you from personal experience: Absolutely nothing is holding back the "Internet of Things". As a matter of fact it seems to be doing the opposite, holding back nothing but security and privacy, and creating according to an article I read recently, "smart" this's and that's's are rapidly increasingly becoming unwitting unsecured access points into personal and corporate networks. I mean anyone driving around with an Android looking at the list of network names that appear rather often can see the good number of routers named "Thermostat #7" or "HP Wireless Printer" or even sometimes "Soda Vending Machine #xxxx", etc. I mean face it fellow geeks, given the current miserably deplorable state of the computing industry right now - blatant documented unfettered mass distributions of abominations of malware being sold and proliferated to unknowing, innocent public citizens by rogue constitutional-scoffing agents of the State known as Google, Facebook, Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T, T-Mobile, Samsung, ZTE, Motorola, HP, Adobe, Anroid, iOS not to mention organized crime networks (including advertising agencies), the NSA, the ruthless and spineless foreign "cyberterrorwar" governmental divisions and the ones who if they are so worried about being Anonymous then they probably should either go ahead and grow a pair of balls, show their f^cking faces and walk their talk or just get the f^ck off of the Internet period and seriously rethink their lives. A computer to me is rapidly becoming a standalone desktop with no networking hardware, no hard drive, a read-only version of Linux running off of the DVD drive and a USB-port for a USB-powered pencil sharpener to sharpen the pencil that I will use on a a piece of paper to record any data or perform any kind of mathematical computation or write any kind of composition. A secure mobile phone is the fact of knowing how annd where you can let somebody know that you would like to meet them in person to grab a cup of coffee or a scone and catch up on each other. Forget firewalls, AV tools, encryption, or any proper procedure, protocol, provision, etiquette, decorum - any of it - the Internet of Things is an Internet of Bullf^ckery. Here's a few articles to sour your stomach with: http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-microsoft-store-a-wretched-hive-of-scams-and-fake-apps/[^] http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-triples-chrome-bug-bounty-rewards-to-15000/[^] http://www.cso.com.au/article/564069/extortionists-becoming-more-helpful-new-ransomware-generation-bows/?utm_medium=www.cso.com.au&utm_source=article_body_related_article[^] Cyberransomeware? This is what we have to look forward to in an Internet of Things? I'm ready to do a reverse cannonball into Walden's Pond myself... Who's with me...?  "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? Rob Grainger19-Jan-15 22:28 Rob Grainger 19-Jan-15 22:28  It's been shut down for 14 years now Trojan Room Coffee Machine[^] (The only IoT worth having) "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay. Re: What’s holding back the Internet of things? clientSurfer20-Jan-15 13:27 clientSurfer 20-Jan-15 13:27  Heheh nice!  "... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute  "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon   Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon Two or more undiscovered planets could be hiding in our solar system Kent Sharkey18-Jan-15 11:04 Kent Sharkey 18-Jan-15 11:04  io9[^]: Could there be another Pluto-like object out in the far reaches of the Solar System? How about two or more? Only because I like typing (and saying), "trans-Neptunian" Re: Two or more undiscovered planets could be hiding in our solar system PIEBALDconsult18-Jan-15 11:14 PIEBALDconsult 18-Jan-15 11:14  Did they check near Uranus? Re: Two or more undiscovered planets could be hiding in our solar system Kent Sharkey18-Jan-15 11:20 Kent Sharkey 18-Jan-15 11:20  You sir, win one Internet today. TTFN - Kent What if Windows 10 fails? Kent Sharkey18-Jan-15 8:14 Kent Sharkey 18-Jan-15 8:14  Computerworld[^]: The success or failure of a new Microsoft operating system version carries major consequences. Windows 11 will fix all those problems! Re: What if Windows 10 fails? PIEBALDconsult18-Jan-15 8:30 PIEBALDconsult 18-Jan-15 8:30  It won't. I just downloaded and installed the CTP (or whatever they call it) on an old laptop and it's so much better than Weight. Not as good as Weven, but it has a Start menu. I also installed the Visual Studio 2015 CTP, and it's looking OK so far. I just need to install SQL Server 2014. So far the ISO has refused to work. Re: What if Windows 10 fails? Rob Grainger19-Jan-15 0:12 Rob Grainger 19-Jan-15 0:12  PIEBALDconsult wrote: I also installed the Visual Studio 2015 CTP, and it's looking OK so far. CTP5 seems to have take a big backwards step for C++ Intellisense - it almost never gets useful suggestions, previous CTPs were an improvement. "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay. Re: What if Windows 10 fails? PIEBALDconsult19-Jan-15 3:42 PIEBALDconsult 19-Jan-15 3:42  I only do C#. Re: What if Windows 10 fails? Mike Hankey18-Jan-15 9:08 Mike Hankey 18-Jan-15 9:08  If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with! New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 My goal in life is to have a psychiatric disorder named after me. I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless. Re: What if Windows 10 fails? Smart K818-Jan-15 9:37 Smart K8 18-Jan-15 9:37  It's not like there is other realistic alternative (don't let Microsoft know) for me. So I for one welcome my Windows #Whatevers. Re: What if Windows 10 fails? Paul M Watt18-Jan-15 9:40 Paul M Watt 18-Jan-15 9:40  Fail is a relative term. A real failure would be for a viable alternative OS to become available and start to displace Windows. For that to occur the alternative must: - Be relatively simple to setup and use - Be open for expansion to hardware vendors - Support any combination of hardware configurations - Be able to run ~10 years worth of backwards compatible Windows software. *** Win the support of developers IMO Linux is the only one that even comes close to meeting those requirements. Unfortunately, there is no consensus between its users. All of which prefer there own distros that may or may not be compatible with other variations of the OS. I have no idea what the future holds, but I would hate to see the open box general PC model disappear and give way to these closed and fixed tablet / All-in-one computing devices.

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