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V'ger is that which seeks the Creator.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
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Sterilize imperfections!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Torvalds pledges to dedicate the next 25 years of his life to usurping Windows. Looking forward to all the future Year of Linux announcements
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At the pace Microsoft is open sourcing the packages, Linux has nothing up his sleeves that can surprise us. Or maybe he has it up somewhere, other than sleeve.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I wish the Desktop were much thinner than it is.
The problem with desktop is that it so bloated that it barely runs on devices -- laptops, etc...
Why not have hot swappable add-ins and only run what I need at the time instead of all these services going crazy in the background.
Thin Desktop is what we want!  
modified 10-Apr-16 17:52pm.
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: Linux has nothing up his sleeves that can surprise us.
It does; it could simply not repeat the mistakes of Windows.
Like being a security issue, or forcing updates 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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He won't have to wait that long for Microsoft to totally fubar Windows. Then again, if he really wants to beat MS, maybe he should focus not on the OS but on the desktop environments available for Linux. They're all crap, and the #2 reason I don't use Linux. The #1 reason is the other thing he should focus on -- I do NOT, EVER, NEVER EVER EVER, want to have to run "sudo apt-get" to install something. And when I install it, it should automatically create a desktop shortcut or some other easily accessible shortcut, so I don't have to figure out how to put a link to a bash .sh file on my desktop myself. Oh yeah, and figure out where the stupid environment setting is to make .sh files executable. F***ing insanity if you as me.
It's the simple things in life.
Marc
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Not that I'm I Torvalds fan, but he doesn't have much control over #1. That's entirely up to the people putting out the individual software packages. Here's my experience with JetBrains IDE's on Linux:
1 - Download file from website.
2 - Find file in downloads folder.
3 - Right-click / Extract Here
4 - Double click install.sh
5 - Click through dialogs
After that I have icons in my "Start" menu, and on my desktop.
So it's already entirely possible to have a rather user-friendly install process. But how many open source developers are interested in actually putting work into their install process? Not many I'd wager.
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Linux won't ever provide a usable desktop.
Linux developers insist that users behave in the way the developers expect them to do - and that's the other way round from correct application development. The desktop is for users, nit for developers. And when users behave badly, developers have a lot of work of making it fool-proof.
Several years ago, a WYSIWYG interface was provided for a text editor (emacs?, I do not remember exactly) with a SuSE distribution. You could not use it: pressed enter two times to add some empty space to be filled later, a message popped up requiring me to define a new format definition for that. Hey, I wanted to type, not to define formats! With the next distribution, it was no more included. Miserable failure the Linux way.
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DevOps, as we know it, is dead. Perhaps not many people agree with me, but the age of DevOps is just about over. Then again, perhaps this won’t come as a surprise to some. Good thing I didn't take the time to learn it then
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Was it even alive?
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
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Author of the Tiobe monthly language popularity index sees both Visual Basic and Visual Basic .Net dropping from the top 10 within a year "The king is gone, but he's not forgotten"
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When Microsoft misses language parity for a third time in a row (this time with .NET Core) you have to take the hint.
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About elephanting time. Unfortunately (without looking at the list), it's probably being replaced with equal shyte, like Ruby, Python, or Javascript.
Marc
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You're psychic! Looks like Perl and Ruby moved up about the same amount VB went down (that, and Java)
TTFN - Kent
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Kent Sharkey wrote: You're psychic!
One of my less advertised talents.
BTW, I knew you'd write that. 
Marc
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I find Python quite a nice language, and a powerful one at that. There are some packages that aren't all that good, but the majority of them are well written and work. Yes the Whitespace-based-scoping is a bit odd, but it makes programs easier to read as a result.
I still agree with you on JS and Ruby, and with Kent on Perl. Those languages are WTFs. (Perl is good for extracting data from text, though. And you can do some pretty impressive things with Perl one-liners. The language is still very confusing.)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: I find Python quite a nice language, and a powerful one at that. There are some packages that aren't all that good, but the majority of them are well written and work. Yes the Whitespace-based-scoping is a bit odd, but it makes programs easier to read as a result.
Yes, I find Python fine in my very limited exposure to it. Whitespace-scoping is OK after you get used to it. F# has this as well and it doesn't seem to get as many complaints, though that might be because it's more specialised.
Brisingr Aerowing wrote: I still agree with you on JS and Ruby, and with Kent on Perl. Those languages are WTFs. (Perl is good for extracting data from text, though. And you can do some pretty impressive things with Perl one-liners. The language is still very confusing.)
Perl is truly awful, though I agree with you that it's impressive in what it can do.
Kevin
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: I find Python quite a nice language
I definitely like using Python for doing stuff with a Beaglebone, as there are a lot of cross-OS libraries out there that work equally well in Windows, so I can develop most of the Python code in Windows and write interchangeable pieces for the stuff that is custom to the OS/hardware.
But I still can't fully embrace the idea of writing a major application in Python. Maybe that view will change as I work more with it. I appreciate the endorsement though, especially from a respected member -- most of the Python code I've been subjected to that others have written looks like VB spaghetti code.  Unfortunately, it taints my appreciation of the language.
Marc
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I guess those 'developers' were converted from VB. They never learn.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Marc Clifton wrote: most of the Python code I've been subjected to that others have written looks like VB spaghetti code
Unfortunately you can write spaghetti code in pretty much any programming language 
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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