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I'm buying a laptop, primarily so that I can keep up with my homework while travelling for work. Given that my idea of a rousing game is Solitaire, is there any reason that I should pay $300 extra for an i7, instead of an i5 processor? I'm trying to think of one, but I'm stuck.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Faster compiles when writing software, and faster results when running CPU heavy engineering software are the only ones that occurs to me.
YMMV on if it's worth the premium.
PS The gaming upgrade would be a discrete GPU. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I'm not sure what you mean by "heavy engineering software." I use ESRI ArcGIS at work and at home, along with AutoCAD, but I don't plan to use the laptop for anything that demanding. For homework I'll need mostly Word and Excel, plus a bit of Minitab statistics software, if I decide to buy the package...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Autocad with a larger blueprint would probably count. I suspect ESRI's stuff would as well.
Various modeling/simulation software ranks even higher on that list; a few years ago one of my coworkers got a $10kish godbox for RF modeling software; IIRC the specs would still crush most high end desktops on non-GPU accelerated tasks.
If you're not doing anything like that on the laptop feel free to spend the $300 on something more useful.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: feel free to spend the $300 on something more useful
Don't say that the bastard will be down the casino turning it into $600 or at least a non loss and come back here crowing about it!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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No.
Though i think you need some Whiskey.
Bryce
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I've had some beer tonight; does that count?
Tomorrow is scotch night, right after I pick up the laptop I just ordered, on the strength of your recommendation. If I hate it, that will be entirely your fault. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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My credit card with Citibank has some kind of rebate when making certain purchases. When the rebate amount reaches a certain limit, I can request a check send to me.
First, I tried to do it online, there was a "Request rebate check" link just for this purpose. It did not work (with some technical error message) but it did give me a service phone number to call. I called the number, entered my credit card information and guess what, the phone route did not work either. I was transferred to a customer service person, who took all my information and assured me that I would receive my rebate check as soon as possible. That was two weeks ago.
Since I never received my rebate check, I tried the whole thing again today, both the web and the phone routes failed (again) with the same error. I was transferred to another customer service person. I told him what happened. He talked to his supervisor and then told me that there is a button (yes, a button) on my credit card that I can press it to use my rebate dollars at any store. It is supposed to be a new technology that is only available to valued customers like me (I guess I should be impressed and grateful). The only problem is, there is no such button on my credit card. The customer service person opened a ticket to send me a new credit card that will definately have that button.
I am just wondering, isn't it simpler to transfer the rebate amount to my credit card or transfer it to my checking account? Why in the hell do people need a button on credit card? Does the button invoke (god forbid) javascript? If it plays music and allows me to watch youtube then it would be worth it.
On the other hand, I haven't watched any news for a long time, it is possible that Citibank (and the whole country) has gone bankrupt, the customer service person is just enjoy his last days on the job. 
modified 4 hrs ago.
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Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote: I am just wondering, isn't it simpler to transfer the rebate amount to my credit card...
My Discover card does this. So far it has worked as expected.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
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DavidCrow wrote: My Discover card does this. So far it has worked as expected.
I've always gone for the $20 gets me $25 (occasionally $30; nowhere I regularly shop is at this tier) rewards code/gift certs instead.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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.....there's no flies on us[^]!
I'd always understood that the patterns were a form of camouflage. Maybe it's a combination of both plus a few others for good luck.
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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I thought they just wanted to be funkier than those ugly warthogs.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I thought the were all Geordies
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: those ugly warthogs.
you mean there are good-looking warthogs?
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No. They're ugly warthogs too, only funkier.
Signature construction in progress. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Snap[^].
Interesting to note how worn down TB-L seemed by the ordeal. He's not particularly ancient so is he maybe unwell?
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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Jepp, I noticed your post on the subject.
Henry Minute wrote: is he maybe unwell?
Hmm, in a room full of fairly ignorant people - and they are ignorant when it comes to computers and how things work in our neck of the woods, both then and now. The people he is talking to will only understand what they want to understand, in a setting were thruth means next to nothing - imagine standing in his place - who wouldn't feel unwell?
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Totally concur with you
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I think he sounded as if he was suffering from wtfitus. He cannot understand the mind-set that would do this and is struggling to comprehend, like many of us, how this could be an issue.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I decided I'd give this story the effort of actually reading through the article and the follow on about the possible outcomes[^]. All I can say is Jesus wept. I'd have thought that a simple test to see if the patent holder was actually using the patent, as in this case they are blatantly not, would suffice to show if there was a case.
Beyond that, the patent covers prior art so it should be struck down. FFS, if Tim BL doesn't wish to exercise any claim over the net, why should these trolls? If the patent must be enforced, allow a slice equal to their effort; about $500.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: All I can say is Jesus wept
And that's putting it mildly ...
Nagy Vilmos wrote: about $500
And please don't forget about the tar and feathers ... I believe they still do that on occasion in Texas.
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