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Sounds like a code review with QA...
Thanks for the chuckle.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I get a crash in both with MSE detecting invalid DEP exception.
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Harvey
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Somethng on your system, then. No reason why liveleak and youtube would both give you the same error.
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I settled down in Waterstone's bookshop this afternoon with a leisurely coffee and a book on quips made by people. One that tickled me was an exchange between an Irish rugby player and England's legendary rugby hooker Brian Moore.
The Irish player asked him "What are you going to do for a face when Saddam wants his arse back?"
Moore replied "I'll smear it with sh*t first like he did when you used it."
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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Moore is indeed a legend. The only man I've ever seen win an otherwise unwinnable match by deliberatly setting out to get punched in the face.
England were 2 points down to the French with seconds on the clock and French had the ball, Brian has a 'quiet word' with the French captain who responds by punching him full in face right in front of the Ref. Penalty to England, the match in the bag and there's Brian Moore, blood running down his face, laughing like a drain. I've no idea what he said to the French captain but he knew exactly what he was doing and exactly how to make him explode right on que. I've not read his bio 'Beware of the Dog' but it could just as easily have been called 'Winning Ugly'. He was the master of that.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage."
Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Matthew Faithfull wrote: laughing like a drain
Perfect. I can just picture it.
I might be wrong but I think he was also the player who opened up and made public that he'd been sexually abused when he was a young lad.
Now that I've read more about him I'll look for his bio when I'm at the library next.
When he played with Jason Leonard and Jeff Probyn I don't think there was a better front row in rugby at that time in the world. It would be fair to mention the three of them with the same respect as the Pontypool front row that played for Wales in the 70s.
They were bloody tough blokes for sure.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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I have supped ale with that front row. Moore is an amazing guy, so clever and articulate yet full of rage especially on the pitch.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Matthew Faithfull wrote: He was the master of that.
Well, is this not the general way of playing of England ? Panache is something long forgotten.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Things have changed a lot since those days when panache was not forgotten simply despised. These days all international teams are more similar and the players perhaps less crazy than they were in the amateur era. It's still the oldest and one of the most successful English tactics to do as they did against Ireland 2 weeks ago and 'bring on the beasts' which always reminds me the way Probyn and Leonard used to play. They sub in huge men who may not have the fanciest skills but can simply crush the opposition, batter them into the ground. It works best in heavy rain of course like much that is English. As a tactic it has seldom failed except against South Africa and Argentina who do it even better than we do. You may remember Brieve had great success for a couple of seasons some years ago playing in the same way. It's is surely not pretty but still great to watch.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage."
Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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... just curious if anyone would notice. 
Sorry.
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Begone, you foul fiend!
(I nearly assumed you were a Live TV spammer and marked you appropriately - phew!)
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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You reply to an automatically removed message? 
What's your secret? 
In some cases, my signature will be longer than my message...
<em style="color:red"> <b>ProgramFOX</b></em> ProgramFOX
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ProgramFOX wrote: What's your secret?
I think it involved sheep.
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Haha... you sneaky old bastard!!
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+5 for the creativity 
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Apparently, humans are no longer needed.
Steve Wellens
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your Quote: :Message Automatically removed
has been rejected
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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With that all-star cast of names with "Message Automatically Removed" next to their names - I couldn't help but notice! You are forgiven.
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I have found it, at least the 1960's version.[^] I hope they managed a decent plot when they cut together the small series to a movie. There goes the afternoon...
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This is so accurate, how could they have known!!
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It was a nice little series with only seven episodes. They never made more because of the production costs. For more than 40 years they have kept us waiting 
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I vote that priority be given to Firefly.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I don't go for any of this stupid modern Turkish sh*t. My wife's family are a mixed 5 types of wog with her parents born in Egypt. They say it's Basturma, it's Basturma. f*** Wikipedia.
It's 00:00 on a Sunday night, I'm drinking copious quantities of beer (yes, I know you're shocked, but just cope and get on with the rest of the post) and cooking up a 6 egg omlette with a crapload of basturma in it.
Should be ready in the next 3 to 5 minutes and then it's into large bread rolls baked today and spread with a decent amount of butter. None of that gay margarine here.
Mostly eaten now. The Post Message button didn't want to play nice with me.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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If you just said "I'm making a scrammbled egg and beef sandwich" I would have known what you meant. "Basturma" I had to Google!
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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I found a link and had it copied to the clipboard. Then forgot to put the link into the post. Moron.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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You're not a moron - you're just slightly p*ssed!
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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OriginalGriff wrote: You're not a moron - you're just slightly p*ssed!
Also forgot to mention that Basturma is a whole lot better in eggs than just plain old beef. Headache coming on, better fix that with some more beer.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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OriginalGriff wrote: you're just slightly usually p*ssed!
FTFY
If it moves, compile it
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margarine is gay? I'm pretty sure, at a pinch, they first reach for the unsalted butter.
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_Josh_ wrote: margarine is gay? I'm pretty sure, at a pinch, they first reach for the unsalted butter.
No unsalted butter, no cakes.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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_Josh_ wrote: You dont eat cake?
I don't, but I thought you would and would miss them if they didn't exist. Unsalted butter may be leaning toward gay, but margarine is full blown gay with leather pants and a 1970's moustache.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Here's my cake blog
Cakes
I sh*t you not, these are the cakes I've eaten at work this year.
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Continuing my previous London buses thread where I had no interviews for months and then several came along on the same day I just completed my first week at the new job and it was a sort of odd experience. I was asked by the agency if I could start on Monday (last) for a couple of days trial, seemingly to see if I liked the company but possibly for them to see if they liked me as well. The two days went to three and the agency phoned me to say they were positive about what I was doing and they'd look to make a formal offer about salary last Thursday which extended into Friday. By that time I'd worked for a week not really knowing what was going to happen. The agency phoned me on Friday morning to say I'd get the letter that day. 5pm came and went and the office was about to close. The chap trying to sort out the paperwork tried to contact the agency to see what the protocol was as they rarely ever use agencies. The agent had gone home for the day so I gave the director my email address and later that evening he confirmed the salary in the job listing, leave and what have you. I was asked to think about it with the hope I'll be back in tomorrow, which I will be.
I still don't know if I'm being paid for the trial period or whether to claim jobseekers allowance for that week which amounts to 35 hours or £2.02 per hour which doesn't even register on the industry accepted minimum wage radar!
It's been a most confusing week. Don't get me wrong; I have a nice feeling about the company and I can appreciate that where they've filled other jobs via word-of-mouth or local adverts in papers they naturally see IT development placements cost, what, 10%+ of the annual salary? I think they used agencies for the IT roles as they can at least filter the applications instead of the company wasting time interviewing people who clearly aren't suitable. As it costs a lot in fees they saw the trial period as useful to see if we like each other, which is the case.
It also got me thinking whether something popped up in the interview they were unsure about. Then again, the interview was one of the best I've ever participated in. I had an unexpected written code test. If the agency had told me it was going to happen I would at least have revised some of the common questions. Perhaps some of my answers needed to be probed and perhaps the trial was meant to satisfy that? I think one of the other developers who joined late last year joined the company without doing a trial period and I think he came in via an agency.
So, was it me? Is it a new strategy they're embracing? Is it for peace of mind to ensure the applicant wants to work for them and they want to minimise any exposure to loss of paying agency fees. That's more or less the reason I was given. I was tasked to do a piece of work which took a little longer than expected as understandbly, you have to learn something about their database structure and supporting objects, that sort of thing.
It's just that I never knew all week if I was going in for a second. I am but has anyone else ever been in that sort of situation before? To be honest, I found it quite stressful as the uncertainty of it all raised more questions than I could find answers.
It's been very confusing but hopefully it's all resolved now and unless a contrary email arrives during the early hours of the morning I will go back at 9am. 
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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As long as the company hasn't been stringing ou along in order to get a weeks work out of you for nothing, it sounds like all will end well!
Personally I would have insisted on written terms from the agency before I started any trial; more than happy to do a trial, at $x per hour, for example. Effectively a very short term contract prior to being given a permanent offer.
Sounds to me like they may have been burned in the past?
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I think they were being cautious rather than trying to milk a week's worth of slave labour from me. I hope that is the bloody case!
The agency was okay and they generally told me what was going on but I think the company were getting annoyed with him as he was clearly chasing his own commission target. But apart from that, I really enjoyed working with them last week. The hours are very good, 9-5, hour for lunch and I'm about 10 minutes drive from home so I get home at a nice time now it's getting lighter. Assuming I get the paperwork tomorrow I'll trust they'll start my pay from Monday last week. I think the agency did say they'll pay for the trial if I didn't formally accept but the agent chopped and changed with what he told me so I'll have to wait and see.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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PHS241 wrote: The agency was okay
That's the highest praise I've heard about an agency for a long time.
I've been out of the market for a few years now, but I have never heard of a job starting in this way. The normal thing is for the company to decide they want you, and then they take you on on full pay for a probationary period, 2 to 3 months being the norm. Assuming you have not signed your contract yet, just make sure your boss (or whoever) dates it from your first day of work, and check that you will be paid from then.
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Richard, there is a six-month probation period as well. I'll certainly make sure I'm paid for the week I did. Hopefully, I'll tidy up the loose ends tomorrow.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
modified 17 Feb '13 - 11:51.
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I've not experienced that, but I have a similar story.
At a previous job, I went through an agency, and on my first payday I went to their office to get my paycheck. They didn't have my check. Apparently, the person in charge of me was fired or something, and they plumb lost track of me. Wasn't a big deal to me, but I told my boss and he said he'd take care of it.
Not sure what the deal was exactly, but my boss offered me a check directly. While I was at the bank to deposit it, a head hunter from the agency called me and basically said, "you can under no circumstances cash that check." My response was basically, "well, I'm going to." All of my paychecks came directly from my boss from then on.
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I imagine that the company is doing everything properly and above board, but the agency is trying to squeeze as much of your money out of it as it can. Talk with the HR guy at the company, to see if he knows what the agency is doing.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's all okay and the agency is, well, a typical agency, run by wankers employing wankers. They don't give a continental f*ck about you until the c**ts smell the dosh. When they get that they go back to not giving a sh*t anymore.
I had to get home at lunchtime to phone the local Jobcentre and tell them that they can take me off fackin' jobseekers allowance. I hope it's a long, long time before I step in there again, hopefully never.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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its just a private idea , really .net is not killing natural of programming? i mean in .net sometimes with one line you can do something wich needs more than 10 lines! it makes programming so simple and faster but in this situations i dnt feel im programming really ! maybe because my codes complete so fast ! whats your idea? agree or not?
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If you feel that, you're not working on interesting programs.
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a calculator also can be interesting if you make it with new ways! dnt agree? in first version you write anything in one class, in second you involve inheritance, in third version you involve threads and delegates ,... as you see a simple programm can be interesting with new and great codes ! dont agree?
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Maybe.. that sort of sounds like making it complex just for the sake of complexity though.
How about a calculator that can parse formula's and do symbolic differentiation? Now that's pretty interesting, and the fact that you'd be working in C# doesn't really kill the fun.
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im not talking about c#, i really love c# ! so you know interesting not bigs
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No - it's just moving the "grunt work" into a tested, reliable code base.
Just as we all used to do ourselves, but with that code base being consistent and shared among a huge number of users instead of different for each company or even programmer.
All .NET does is let us concentrate on the application instead of getting bogged down by the details of the low level stuff we have written so many times before.
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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OriginalGriff wrote: All .NET does is let us concentrate on the application instead of getting bogged
down by the details of the low level stuff we have written so many times
before.
You forgot the most important factor: It also fills Microsoft's pockets. By now and then dropping something and sharing their latest great vision with us, they also want to make sure that we keep on buying their stuff.
That's the point where .Net has begun to cost me more than it is worth. I now refuse to waste my time adapting my code or learning stuff that will only be dropped again at the next opportunity.
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