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Well, used it in the past, and have revisited it in recent time, now using it again 
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Also used ClearCase and VSS in the past but SVN is much, much, much better!!
OK, it maybe hard to configure Apache/SVN running on Windows but when it works it just works (using standard DB format)
Have you ever tried to create a Service Pack etc. in VSS? It works but it is a hell. SVN provides a more sophisticated mechanism for that and you can restore each version (revision) when using SVN. VSS can't restore all version (even it was labeled) when files where deleted, removed...
svn
branches
RB-1.0 ...
tags
REL-1.0.0.1
REL-1.0.0.2
REL-1.0.0.3
REL-1.1.0.0
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trunk
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I work at a company that evaluated a bunch of systems and landed with SpectrumSCM (http://www.spectrumscm.com/). Perhaps this is an audience fit problem because SpectrumSCM is written in Java and runs on multiple platforms. We're the odd .NET guys in a Java shop.
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VSS ??  You are still living in black and white .....
Be colorful .... yes colors of user friendly features........ its SVN ....
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My experience with VSS has been poor.
I usually work in a small development group and with ComonentSoftware I get a all the features at a reasonable price. I can also modify things so other applications, non-software, can add files easily.
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VSTS is really cool, except the machine it was on has died, so I've not used it for a bit. SourceAnywhere is awesome, well worth the money for a distributed team. SVN is just a nightmare, I despise it and those from whom it was spawned. Nothing but grief.
Christian Graus
No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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We use three source control systems...
Perforce for our documents. This is used by non-techies mainly. Personally I don't like Perforce much. The GUI clients are awful.
svn is our main code source control system.
git is being trialled on a few small projects and I personally like it best.
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Priest Of Psi wrote: But thats the company standard
What, VSS or to hate what you use?
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist
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KarstenK wrote: Plug off your network cable
Why would you do that? 
Without a reliable network connection, VSS is toast.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist
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Visual SourceSafe is a relic, why it's even accepted as an good application is beyond me (looks out dated, comments like "wtf is that a Windows NT 4 app?!" are not far off).
After lots of testing I have persuaded my company to switch to SourceGear Vault and it is a welcome relief.
SGV is miles ahead of VSS in terms of usability and functionality and more importantly it doesn **** up your work and trash the database on random days of the week.
In an ideal word I would use Subversion, great design and the whole concept of managing projects with branches, tags etc makes sense, shame it's *nix only and a pain to integrate with Visual Studio.
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Me too!
But for our company it is past!! Using Subversion and we are happy about it!! You may a suggestion to your boss ; -)
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In the organization where I work we use both PVCS Version Manager by Serena Sw (since 1994) and SVN-Subversion.
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my Visual Source Safe IDE plugin crashes (at least) once a day.
sadly, it is a random bug; we had this problem in every Visual Studio version and is still not fixed in VS2008. a new machine/installation did not help either.
I'm (still) sending all my bug reports to M$ and all they did is closing my case whitout any help or suggestion.
do you have the same problem? or could you even fix this?
Thanks for any help,
Patrik
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Same as me. Wierd.  We are a team of 6 using it everyday for the past few years (moved onto VSS2005 when it came out).
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My Source Code Control history:
before 1991 - none.
1991-1993: SCCS
1994-1995: A hybrid Team-Work/SCCS system
1996-2008: MS VSS (Visual Source Safe), on and off
1999-2000: QVCS
2002: (some) Clear-Case
2007: Subversion, with the Tortoise SVN client
Given the correct repository analysis and backup policy, I found VSS to be the best overall solution for me, for small to medium sized projects (no more then 12 pepole working on the same code base)
For the last project, we started with SVN, and after a serious repository "crash", moved (back) to VSS. I DO NOT BLAME SVN - but VSS suits us better.
noams66
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Can't believe what I was reading here 
Also used ClearCase and VSS in the past but SVN is much, much, much better!! Ok, it maybe hard to configure Apache/SVN but when it works it just works (using standard DB format!!)
12 people on the same code base is a huge project...
Have you ever tried to create a ServicePack etc. in VSS? It works but it is a hell. SVN provides a more sophisticated mechanism for that and you can restore each version (revision) when using SVN. VSS can't restore all version (even it was labeled) when files where deleted, removed...
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As long as they provide integration into Visual Studio I don't care what's running underneath 
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Where is Rational Clearcase? A good number of people still depend on it as their daily breadwinner right?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare
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Used it years ago but it was tooo slow... Then we coninuted using VSS and a year ago we switched to SVN and it is the best source control system imho 
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I have a hard drive crash with a VSS database that took me 3 days to recover from and we had to do a lot of re-coding. Over a 512/128 VPN it just took forever to sync our code files.
After doing a little research we found Vault and haven't look back since. God forbid it's fast and it has a godsend email monitoring service, so I can just get emails when other people update code. Backing up and restoring the SQL datastore has been faultless. We are kicking ourselves for not moving away from VSS earlier.
Jamie Clayton
Senior Application Developer
Jenasys Design Pty Ltd Australia
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Unfotunatley, sometimes you need to toe the corp line. This includes using whatever software is aleady being used. This doesn't mean I like it.
Also, I make sure that I use xcopy to make sure I have another copy sitting somewhere safe just in case
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