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Gary Wheeler wrote: ne of the symbol fonts like WingDings
Realtime obfuscation and encryption all-in-one!
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Sorry, still don't care 
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Yeah, well, you don't care about UI at all anyway 
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Paul Watson
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote: you don't care about UI at all anyway
Not completely true  But pretty much every code editor I have tried has decent default fonts, and that's enough for me.
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Never mind, the ratio of barbarians to coding professionals has swung way up in recent years here.
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-Sam Levenson
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I use Arial and I am very happy with it. It saves a lot of space. There is no need for a mono spaced font.
Give it a try and let us know!
Patrik
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I've tried once, several years ago. Doesn't work for me. I expect certain segments ogf code to line upbeyond indentation.
Someone, somewhere demoed a "smart tabs feature for an editor: tab positions would be determined dynamically, so if multiple sequential lines use tabs, code would line up. I'd give that a try.
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performis wrote: saves a lot of space
How does it save space? Why do you need to save "space" when coding?
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Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I have 2 19 inch monitors. I code on the left side. According to the actual newsletter comment (NASA unveils 128-screen visualization system:
"I'd finally have room for all the VS windows") I have probably to many VS windows open. So it happens, that I can't see the whole line (mostly comments or when I use some Resource calls (My.ResThisIsMySpecialResourceNameSpaceInThisCase.ThisIsTheTextThatIWouldLikeToShowLBL) as parameter).
With a proportional font, I see simply more on one line.
First, it is kind of weird, but I got used to this many many years ago using Enfin (Smalltalk).
Thats all.
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performis wrote: So it happens, that I can't see the whole line (mostly comments
Obviously it is your code but most code I've enjoyed working with has a character limit at which point it is wrapped by the programmer. Comments in particular never go over 60 characters.
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Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote: Obviously it is your code but most code I've enjoyed working with has a character limit at which point it is wrapped by the programmer.
Indeed--I limit myself to 120 characters per line, so I can print everything without a single line wrap.
But most importantly, on a monitor capable of 1920 pixels horizontally, then at 120 characters per line, I can split the editor window vertically and show the content of two source files side-by-side without scrolling horizontally.
Without the line breaks, I have to start scrolling horizontally. OTOH, if I stick to showing one code file only, then most of the right half of the space is "wasted"...I find my current setup to be the best compromise and makes the best use of the available space.
Floating windows/explorer/browser/etc go on a secondary monitor.
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Yeah I agree entirely.
I think my limit is around 80 characters for comments particularly, probably a hold over from the dos programming days or even earlier.
Although with my wide screen monitor I'm probably going a bit wider.
Trying to parse code visually that required a proportional font would drive me up the wall.
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-Sam Levenson
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Paul Watson wrote: Why do you need to save "space" when coding?
It would certainly save horizontal space, to allow you to read long lines of code without scrolling, and therefore give you more room for toolbars, etc.
I'm too afraid to try variable-width fonts though, for some reason. 
“Time and space can be a bitch.”
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logan1337 wrote: and therefore give you more room for toolbars, etc.
Oh god.
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Paul Watson
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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That was rather rude. If you have something to say, say it. There was nothing offensive about what I wrote to warrant such tone.
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You are right, I was rude.
Using a variable font to fit in more characters in a line so you can have toolbars... I don't know where to begin.
(I know you said you don't use a variable width font but to even utter "toolbars" as a reason scares the beejesus out of me. )
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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No worries. I was merely speculating on behalf of the other user to offer a reason. I can imagine that being able to see a files explorer, properties pane and toolbox all at the same time might be nice. Right now I have to collapse them (at least the toolbox) most of the time.
And frankly I hate those sliding toolbars. :P
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Ah, so you mean tool windows rather than toolbars. Paul probably thought you meant toolbars.
logan1337 wrote: I hate those sliding toolbars.
I often use keyboard macros to toggle open and close them rather than auto-hide. Gives me a rest from the mouse (and waiting for the hour-glass).
Kevin
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Ah sorry. I hate those sliding tool windows. 
I'll keep the keyboard macros in mind, but often I just want to use the mouse anyway and have to wait for the delay while it hovers and then animatedly slides out. I hate delays. :P
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logan1337 wrote: often I just want to use the mouse anyway
So do I. I find I'm most productive with the right combination of keyboard and mouse.
logan1337 wrote: and have to wait for the delay while it hovers and then animatedly slides out. I hate delays.
You tend not to get the delay when using a macro (except for the very first invocation of a macro in that session).
The sliding tool windows are actually a good idea but just not efficient and reliable enough.
Kevin
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How much code do you look at and have to comprehend quickly on a daily basis? For some it's not a lot and so they can have more latitude in what they choose but for others it's a hell of a lot and if you find you have to think at all while looking at it to comprehend it then it's just wrong.
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-Sam Levenson
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Tried it for a while once. And I do experiment with other fonts from time to time but keep coming back to Courier New. I've just not yet found a compelling alternative.
Arial is my favourite in word processing though. I always switch to it in Word or in email clients.
Kevin
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