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Re: interesting my phantom -16 point down-voter seems now able to down-vote a post on the Lounge

18-Sep-14 6:46

See answer here: http://www.codeproject.com/suggestions.aspx?msg=4906386#xx4906386xx[^]

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

BillWoodruff18-Sep-14 23:15

BillWoodruff

18-Sep-14 23:15

Thanks, KEP, for pointing that out to me.

« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

What's with premature closing of QA questions like this ?

BillWoodruff17-Sep-14 3:44

BillWoodruff

17-Sep-14 3:44

Note: the text of the OP's question is appended below, since I assume his post will disappear soon.

The question at: [^] was closed rather quickly by two CP members:

"Closed because This post is not a question, or has not been phrased in a way that allows a reasonable answer to be provided. Reported by Wes Aday, Rohan Leuva on Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:13pm."

imho it's a valid QA question with quite a bit more detail, and quality, than most of the QA questions. The fact that SAK himselves edited the question suggests to me it has some value as a question, given his propensity to apply "the kiss of death" in QA liberally Smile | :)

So happens, I have a useful piece of code I developed a long time ago that I'd be happy to share with the OP.

Does a mere mortal, like myself, have the power to re-open the question ?

thanks, Bill

OP's question (as edited by SAK):

I have an application that needs to scan folders and if the folder is empty it should return the name of the folder.This how my folders are been structure
 
1. You have the Main Folder "Folder 1"
2. Inside the Main Folder "Folder 1" they is a Sub Folder - "Folder 2" 
3. Inside Sub Folder "Folder 2" they is "Multiple Sub Folder" namely 
a. "Folder 001"
b. "Folder 002"
c. "Folder 003"
4. inside each "Multiple Sub Folder" they are other Folders with the same name e.g
i. "Sub-Sub Folder 1"
ii. "Sub-Sub Folder 2"
iii. Sub-Sub Folder 3"
 
In the system i need to just select the Sub Folder - "Folder 2" and the system needs to scan "Multiple Sub Folders" and "Sub-Sub Folder 2" and if the "Sub-Sub Folder 2" is empty the it should return the name of the "Multiple Sub Folder" e.g "Folder 001","Folder 002"

« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

modified 17-Sep-14 9:59am.

Re: What's with premature closing of QA questions like this ?

Chris Maunder17-Sep-14 3:54

Chris Maunder

17-Sep-14 3:54

I have to agree with the closing of that question since it's not a question: it's a description of a task and not a specific question regarding an issue someone is "stuck" on. If the person had said "where can I get some help designing this" or "Is this approach sensible?" or best of all "I've got to [insert point] but this bit of code [insert snippet] doesn't work and so I'm unable to get to the next step. Help"

cheers
Chris Maunder

Re: What's with premature closing of QA questions like this ?

BillWoodruff17-Sep-14 4:16

BillWoodruff

17-Sep-14 4:16

Hi Chris,

imho the title of the OP's post: "How to search a directory, folder and sub folder and return folder name" is the question.

If the question had not been snuffed so quickly, I would have asked the OP what code he had tried, and might have edited the question myself.

thanks, Bill

« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

Re: What's with premature closing of QA questions like this ?

OriginalGriff17-Sep-14 8:14

OriginalGriff

17-Sep-14 8:14

I have to agree with Bill here - there do seem to be a couple of over-zealous "this isn't a question" voters these days.
I'd say that's a genuine question, that he wants help with, and while not perfect the subject gives enough to at least start discussions to find out exactly what help the OP needs. But with his question closed, nobody can do that.
And as you say: "Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid." And having your question removed before it's answered isn't helping them.

Yes, we get "do my homework", yes we get a code dump without any clues (but even then, the sensible thing is to ask what the problem is), and yes there are questions which aren't. But some people don't seem to look at anything past the body and if they can't answer it immediately it's "Not a question" and it closes. Even if there is a discussion going on in the comments to establish what the problem is.

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Thanks787216-Sep-14 23:54

16-Sep-14 23:54

I am not sure about the approved ones, but when i commented one of the Article in moderation, i got 10 points stated Post a Programming Forum Answer. It should not be because

- I did not answer anything

- It can be used for rep farming e.g. Nice work, Useful, Thanks for sharing like comments.

Just a thought.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter17-Sep-14 1:12

17-Sep-14 1:12

I posted suggestion on a blog and got only 1 point...

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

Thanks787217-Sep-14 1:14

17-Sep-14 1:14

See this : Not an Article

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter17-Sep-14 1:19

17-Sep-14 1:19

Should it be that the post you replied to was categorized as question, and your as an answer because of that?

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

Thanks787217-Sep-14 1:26

17-Sep-14 1:26

Its not available any more so i can't show you that post, but i am almost sure it was not a question. Even if that is the case then it needs to be changed i think.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter17-Sep-14 1:28

17-Sep-14 1:28

I'm with you on that - all the moderation should not be awarded (even to with a single point)...

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

Chris Maunder18-Sep-14 3:19

Chris Maunder

18-Sep-14 3:19

Do you have a link? If someone posts a question on an article and you reply then the reply is, by default, set as an "answer". Since the post is on an article (and not a general discussion forum) it's considered a programming forum. Hence you get the points for posting an answer on a programming forum.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Thanks787218-Sep-14 4:22

18-Sep-14 4:22

Chris Maunder wrote:
Do you have a link?

Message : http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/ArticleVersion.aspx?aid=819727&av=1213246&msg=4904965#xx4904965xx[^]

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Thomas Daniels18-Sep-14 5:32

Thomas Daniels

18-Sep-14 5:32

I noticed that the same happens in the Article Writing forum; if your answer gets upvoted there, you get 10 points with the message "Post a Programming Forum Answer", while the Article Writing forum is not a Programming Forum.

The quick red ProgramFOX jumps right over the Lazy<Dog>.

Suggestion.

Sanjay K. Gupta16-Sep-14 21:33

Sanjay K. Gupta

16-Sep-14 21:33

I am observing in CP in recent days, some people are complaining about "Down Voting". Some people are suggesting, remove the down vote button from QA section as like discussion forums.
My suggestion is, the down vote button should only visible, when user hit the "Up Vote" button. Means user can only down vote such item(s) which he/she has up voted. If user does not like the Answer/Post, he can just undo his "Up Vote". The points of down vote should be deducted the same added point after Up Voting.
Sometimes, I like the code snippet/link and up voted the answer, but when I visit the actual link or after trying the code, I found, it is not working as exptecd, then I can undo my "up vote". This can be useful for other developers.

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Richard MacCutchan16-Sep-14 21:54

Richard MacCutchan

16-Sep-14 21:54

Sanjay K. Gupta wrote:
I found, it is not working as exptecd,

Then don't vote until you have checked first. This whole issue around up and down voting has been discussed too many times; just enjoy the site and stop worrying about it.

Rage16-Sep-14 22:23

Rage

16-Sep-14 22:23

Richard MacCutchan wrote:
just enjoy the site and stop worrying about it

+5!

Oh, wait a minute... Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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Pete O'Hanlon16-Sep-14 22:37

Pete O'Hanlon

16-Sep-14 22:37

If an answer is bad then you should be able to mark it as bad. Just undoing an upvote has the same effect as not voting on it at all, which removes the concept of an answer being so wrong that it's dangerous. This is why downvotes have to continue.

ZurdoDev17-Sep-14 7:32

ZurdoDev

17-Sep-14 7:32

Sanjay K. Gupta wrote:
remove the down vote button from QA section as like discussion forums.

Do you mean the 1 star to 5 star voting? Or am I just blind to where the downvote button is?

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Downvote abuse

Sheepings16-Sep-14 10:42

Sheepings

16-Sep-14 10:42

I've had this and I have only signed up. Somebody clearly with know knowledge of coding or someone who is jealous that another users answer holds more merit to being accurate than theirs.

My suggestion to this; is to give points to users who vote accurately to helpful suggestions. Votes could be pending review from admins who specialize in whatever language tag the question it for, and if a user who voted votes accurate, and their votes are approved by an admin, they get points for it.

The reason i am suggesting this; as par the sites methods is to provide users/readers with knowledge and accurate answers. If an accurate answer gets down-voted, a reader will be reluctant to use that example.

Does this not defeat the purpose of the site? What do you think?

Regards,
CodingK

ZurdoDev16-Sep-14 10:59

ZurdoDev

16-Sep-14 10:59

I see you have answered 4 QA questions and only one had a 1 vote. That same question also had a 4 and 5 vote. One down vote is hardly abuse.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Sheepings16-Sep-14 11:04

Sheepings

16-Sep-14 11:04

Hi Ryan, It's not just that post where I received the down-vote, yes that is what sparked the suggestion. But I am reading posts for the past few days that are perfectly fine and yet; get down-voted. Anyway, I've passed on my thoughts on the issue. It would do no harm to moderate votes in my opinion. Lets hope for a resolution. Eh?

Regards,
CodingK

Pete O'Hanlon16-Sep-14 11:54

Pete O'Hanlon

16-Sep-14 11:54

Who has the time to moderate the votes? It's hard enough to keep on top of moderating articles, never mind trying to get on top of the votes. I'm sorry, but to me, this idea is impractical.