A 3 is neutral in the fact that it doesn't give negative or positive reputation points, but if a post has already got one vote of 5 and you give it a 3 then you are bringing the average down to 4, so effectively downgrading the 5. Similarly, if a post has a vote of 1 and you give it a 3 you are upping the average.
I think this is perfectly fine. In this case it is an answer in QA and if the OP felt it did not resolve the problem, the average should go down. In any case it should not hurt the member posting the answer. I would not object if I answered a question and received a 3-vote.
Had it been an article, you could argue that it hurts the author to have the average rating lowered even if there is no change in points. I do wish Code Project would change the 3-vote on articles so you don't have to leave a comment. There are people who take offense to getting 3-vote as this thread shows.
Apparently this post[^] has been flagged as spam (at least) 36 times, but it's still there. Aren't they supposed to be removed after a certain number of reports? (The account was closed though, so it looks like it's working there.)
OK, gather round kids and I'll tell you a story...
Our reputation system grew quickly from a simple system that awarded points for posting articles to a system that was very fine grained. The initial code to award points was baked into the stored procedures that created articles, but as it grew we found we were mixing two patters: one which baked calls to the rep system into the sprocs, and one which used our modular code system that listened to "events" that occurred and would react appropriately.
When we moved our reputation system from a site-centric to network-centric system we, by necessity, had to pull out all the code in the sprocs and move them into message handlers (ie do it properly). We have 77 rep events and dozens of event handlers and we got a few of them cross-wired. However, since I had turned off ratings in the forums, this had masked the issue, because the rating and reporting systems were connected (again, another TODO: untangle them).
It was a straight out bug on our part, and it's the same bug I'm fixing, Friday night, bottle of red, to ensure points are awarded when you edit a Quick Answer question or answer.
But now, I have one more question. Regarding the 800+ points lost from people abusing the reporting feature, is there any way to overturn those?
They'll be back the next time a full recalculation is done. This may be done concurrent with the change, or might wait until more changes are queued up: The recalc takes a while to complete and often results in "where did my points go?!?!?!11eleventyone1" posts from people who see their total when the calc is only partially complete and panic.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
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The only way to do that is to undo all the reporting events. And no, I'm not going to do that. If certain high-level members want to abuse this site, and the members who use it, then the only option I have is to just open up the reporting system so it's clear who's being counter productive.
But no - I'm not going to play Big Brother and decide what abuse report is right and wrong. Sorry, that's just impractical and unpalatable.
Wow. just wow! Does this mean if you just whine enough, it'll be set straight. Is this how this place works? Feel free to cancel my account in this case. I don't think I want to belong to that kind of community.
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Bye. bye, And take good care lest this place degenerates completely!
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Manfred, honestly, the staff at CP can do what they want to do. If they don't reset them, fine. My life continues.
I find the problems experienced today saddening because it doesn't build community, but rather detract from it - when people do things out of spite rather than a 'community spirit'.
You can do whatever you feel is necessary, but I think you need to step back from the keyboard and relax.
If you don't care about anything other than your 'Authority' points, that is your prerogative. Then just resign to enjoy the parts of the site that you care about - Q/A. But for most people, that isn't the case.
I don't quite get what is you problem:
1. Andrew made a good suggestion to improve the site, which Chris will implement.
2. Andrew asked that points which were abusively taken from him be set back, which seems to me a perfect valid request.
If you'd care about reputation, and I would halve yours just for fun, wouldn't you be glad that the CP Team reinstates it to its original level ?
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The suggestion is to only deduct the points once the post is actually removed for being spam.
I personally feel that's a good suggestion, the uni-voter (or uni report voter) will lose his 'power' and the posts that really are spam will get enough votes to have the points deducted.
I'm pretty sure Chris wouldn't just put points back unless it is actually the right thing to do. No matter how much anyone whines.
I still don't get the whole obsession with the points but hey that's just me I guess.
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